Episode 366

Our Thoughts Can Make Us Well with Carole Murko | DFS 366

Get all the inside secrets and tools you need to help you develop your intuitive and leadership skills so you are on the path to the highest level of success with ease.  After several amazing careers, Carole found a new path that was a lot more fun and healing.

In this episode you will learn:

  • Believe You Can
  • Take Radical Action
  • You can become the healer


More About Carole:


Carole Murko is a Mindset, Self-Mastery, and Health Coach dedicated to activating the healer within each individual. As the founder of Love.Eat.Heal, Carole champions the belief that true healing begins with self-love, conscious eating, and wellness practices such as breathwork, meditation, and journaling.


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Transcript
Jennifer Takagi:

Welcome to Destin for success. I'm your

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host, Jennifer Takagi, and today I'm with Carol merko, which, if

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we've had so many fun conversations, a friend of ours

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introduced us online and and we've just really had fun

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getting to know each other and sharing very similar

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experiences, which is always fun. Carol is a mind mindset

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self mastery and health coach dedicated to activating the

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healer within each individual as the founder of love, eat, heal,

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Carol champions the belief that true healing begins with self

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love, conscious eating and wellness practices such as

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breath work, meditation and journaling, and like, the only

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thing I don't agree with this is the whole conscious eating,

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because I consciously eat a lot of whatever I want, so I don't

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know that that's really a good choice. In a minute. So Carol,

Jennifer Takagi:

how did you get into all of this? Where are you in the world

Jennifer Takagi:

and how did you get into this? Tell me more.

Carole Murko:

Well, first of all, Jennifer, thank you for

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having me on your podcast. It's always a delight, especially

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because we've gotten to know each other before doing this

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podcast, and and and virtually right, we haven't met in person.

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And so I live in Western Massachusetts, in a little town

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called Stockbridge. It's, it's an area known as the Berkshires.

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It's two hours from New York, two hours from Boston, sort of

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this really wonderful place that's, it's known for its

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cultural tourism. And how So, how did I come to this work?

Carole Murko:

Well, I tripped into it through a healing journey.

Jennifer Takagi:

Oh my gosh, me too.

Carole Murko:

So and it's often what I say is there were signs

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throughout my entire life that this is probably what I needed

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to be doing, some sort of healing and coaching and and my

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great grandmother was a spiritual medium. My grandmother

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was very into, like healing foods and but I wanted a real

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career, right like so I went to Wall Street. I played with the

Carole Murko:

big boys. I got my Masters in International Economics, my

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Chartered Financial and analyst designation, like, all the hard

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stuff, right? My soul was so in the wrong place, right? Like it

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was just like, I mean, I literally cried every night,

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almost because it was just, you know, I really believe the world

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was a meritocracy. So if I just kept doing the good work being

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the a student, that all of the politics in the London kind of

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stuff would just would not affect me, because I was really

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so good at what I did. And needless to say, that was not

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the case. Had to, had to experience that a few times. And

Carole Murko:

so that was the universe. It's like, okay, you leave, then you

Carole Murko:

come and you try again, and then you leave and you try again. And

Carole Murko:

that is, you know, kind of the iterative process of us, like

Carole Murko:

figuring out who we are and what we're supposed to do and, and I

Carole Murko:

had many other iterations until doing what I'm doing now, you

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know, I went to interior design school after finance, I ended up

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in the Berkshire See, I trust the universe the Berkshires,

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because I got hired to actually decorate the house I'm now

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living in. And I fell in love with Jim and I ended up here.

Carole Murko:

So who knew I was a country girl at heart, and and then,

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and then I created other things. Like I just, I just had, like,

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this creative muse in me, but I always kind of defaulted to,

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like, you know, kind of more standard stuff, right? It was

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just part of his programming. Part of it is not having a clear

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clarity on my path yet, right? So the universe decided to make

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it very clear. And interestingly enough, I'm using clarity and

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clear because I was diagnosed with a theoretically incurable

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eye disease, and I'm sorry that I'm back lit right now so like,

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but whatever, and no no cure orphan disease, like and Western

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meds just completely failed me, and I didn't stay on That path

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for very long, because I was always interested in in natural

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remedies and healing and good clean food and local and

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organic, and my husband was diagnosed with celiac disease

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back in 2006 before gluten free was even a thing. Um, and so we

Carole Murko:

were already a gluten free household. And anyway, I'm

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blabbing on and on and on, the point being that I was no

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stranger to taking care of myself, you know, through food

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and exercise and and, and so it was a great mystery as to why I

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would have gotten sick. But then what I realized that that the

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hierarchy of of of life is you are what you think first, and

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then you are what you eat. Apparently I was having a lot of

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subconscious thoughts that were not good for me, such as

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probably a little unworthiness and perfectionism and rejection,

Carole Murko:

and let's see what else. Oh, maybe I was addicted to

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disappointment and frustration,

Jennifer Takagi:

and oh my gosh, quit talking about me,

Carole Murko:

you know, but you do this for years and years and

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years, and eventually your body decide, you know, is so out of

Carole Murko:

balance that it's going to go to its weakness or whatever. And

Carole Murko:

for me, I turns out that I had the gene for the disease, so it

Carole Murko:

just turned it on. So there, that's how I got here.

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, I love that, because we do have these

Jennifer Takagi:

paths and these journeys. And when I left my federal career

Jennifer Takagi:

and started speaking and training, somebody said, Oh my

Jennifer Takagi:

gosh, aren't you so sad you didn't start out doing this

Jennifer Takagi:

years ago. And I said, Oh no, I wouldn't have great stories like

Jennifer Takagi:

I could have never filled up an hour, much less a whole day of

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training if I didn't have all these stories of what not to do,

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or how it turned out when I did. So, yeah, we have to have all

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those reiterative versions of ourselves till we can, you know,

Jennifer Takagi:

finally get to where we're happy and comfortable and doing what

Jennifer Takagi:

we're supposed to do. Yeah? So I, I love that the changes and

Jennifer Takagi:

the transformative like, like, from finance to interior design,

Jennifer Takagi:

I actually wrote a talk one time, and it was from federal

Jennifer Takagi:

employee to woo, and somebody goes, I don't understand that

Jennifer Takagi:

title. And I was like, well, then you probably shouldn't be

Jennifer Takagi:

in my talk. Like, if you don't know what that means, but like

Jennifer Takagi:

Wall Street, or did you say Wall Street or just finance? I

Jennifer Takagi:

thought you said Wall Street to interior design to like a

Jennifer Takagi:

holistic healer, like those are like hard turns right from one

Jennifer Takagi:

to another when I've had my shifts and turns. They really

Jennifer Takagi:

didn't feel that hard, like they look hard on paper. From federal

Jennifer Takagi:

employee to an energy healer, um, the federal employee to

Jennifer Takagi:

speaker and trainer. Wasn't as hard, except I wasn't talking

Jennifer Takagi:

about housing things, which I was in housing for years, and so

Jennifer Takagi:

that was a little bit hard, because people were that I knew,

Jennifer Takagi:

like, everyone's like, you have this big Rolodex of all these

Jennifer Takagi:

names and people who respected you. And I was like, Yeah, but

Jennifer Takagi:

they want me to talk about housing, and I don't want to

Jennifer Takagi:

talk about housing. So for me, it didn't seem hard, but for the

Jennifer Takagi:

outside world, it was hard, and then I was like, I'm an energy

Jennifer Takagi:

healer. And people are like, Wait, you're What? What? What

Jennifer Takagi:

are you doing? I don't even understand. So, like, for me,

Jennifer Takagi:

it, it kind of didn't seem that hard. Others had kind of a hard

Jennifer Takagi:

time accepting it. Did you have that experience at all, where

Jennifer Takagi:

other people were like, I don't really understand what you do,

Jennifer Takagi:

why you do it, and like, why aren't you still on Wall Street?

Carole Murko:

Yeah, I I think it was confusing to them, right?

Carole Murko:

Because, you know, I mean, I was running the global fixed income

Carole Murko:

marketing for State Street, Global Advisors. We're talking

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like one of the largest, like money management firms and, you

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know, like financial services companies in the world, right?

Carole Murko:

And at 36 right? And so there was a lot of head scratching as

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to, like, why I would leave that right. It was more and so and I,

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it was so easy for me to know why I left that because I it was

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pure hell. And I had tried so many different organizations

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over my career that at some point it was just, you know,

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and. I don't, I used to call the a hole exchange, right? You just

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like shift jobs, but there was still, like, the same set of

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jerks, right? Like, and especially as a woman and, and,

Carole Murko:

you know, it's like they always wanted to belittle me. And, you

Carole Murko:

know, it's like, I remember when I was getting my chartered

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financial analyst certification. It's not a certification, it's

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not a certifications, it's it's a designation. It takes three

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years. It's extremely difficult. Most people don't pass it in

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three successive years. So I remember the first year, bunch

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of the guys you know, like, hey, good luck. But don't worry, most

Carole Murko:

people don't pass. I'm like, You talking about like, I'm like,

Carole Murko:

great, I pass second year, you know, the second one is so much

Carole Murko:

harder than the first one. We're so proud, so proud of you,

Carole Murko:

right? I was like, okay, dudes, okay, pass. Then the third one

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comes along. They're like, you know, only 50% of the people

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pass, you know, successively, still thinking to myself, Okay,

Carole Murko:

dudes like, I, you know, I'm not worried. Like, and, of course, I

Carole Murko:

passed right? But it was after I got that designation where it

Carole Murko:

was, like, it was the badge of honor on my on my business card,

Carole Murko:

right? So it's like I was no longer just the woman who showed

Carole Murko:

up, who was attractive and maybe not too smart, right? Like,

Carole Murko:

because I didn't have that CFA, and so all of a sudden it was

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like I'd walk into a meeting and I'd have the card. I go, Oh,

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CFA, and it was kind of like, I'm done, I'm ready to go. Like,

Carole Murko:

I, you know, I now get like, what I what this really is

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about, and it's just not my, my game anymore. And and then what

Carole Murko:

I really, really wanted to do was something more creative. And

Carole Murko:

so my parents had built some homes, and I was always involved

Carole Murko:

in helping them with choices. And I loved color, I loved all

Carole Murko:

the things. And so say, I'm just gonna do that. And so I

Carole Murko:

literally, like the Boston architectural college was three

Carole Murko:

blocks from my condo, and I walked in there one day and say,

Carole Murko:

you know, can I sign up for the program, and I just want started

Carole Murko:

classes and also hung out my shingle at the same time. And I

Carole Murko:

had, I had clients before I even learned how to do interior

Carole Murko:

design, because I already knew how to do it right. Like, once

Carole Murko:

again, what we tend to do is look for the the designations

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Right. Like, so I had to get that CFA, what for like it was,

Carole Murko:

I already was good at what I was doing, right? But I it was like

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I needed to prove to myself that I was actually as good as all of

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these people. And then in interior design, I had to get

Carole Murko:

the design the degree so that, you know, I can have credibility

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when it was clear that I did. I created beauty, right? Like, so

Carole Murko:

here we are, and, you know, and now. So the shifts were easy,

Carole Murko:

and I had other shifts. Like, I mean, I took this workshop when

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I first moved to the Berkshires. This amazing woman, she's now in

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her 90s. Her name is Carol Hyatt, and she wrote a book

Carole Murko:

called, I think the women's selling game back in, like, the

Carole Murko:

70s, like she was, like one of the pioneers. And so she had

Carole Murko:

this program called Getting to next that she convinced me that

Carole Murko:

I needed to take, which reduced you to your core values. And the

Carole Murko:

core values I discovered were I love my family, I love to

Carole Murko:

entertain and I love to cook. So I'm like, Oh, goody, what do I

Carole Murko:

do with that?

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, I have so many ideas of what the norm

Jennifer Takagi:

would tell you to do, get married, have a house full of

Jennifer Takagi:

kids and feed them, right? I mean,

Carole Murko:

right, yeah, yeah. But so I decided that I would

Carole Murko:

try to start a media company called heirloom meals,

Jennifer Takagi:

and from interior design to heirloom

Jennifer Takagi:

meals, okay, yeah,

Carole Murko:

and very related, though, because life's very

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lifestyle oriented. But the heirloom part was about family

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recipes, because that's the family part, right? My family

Carole Murko:

and and, and so I tripped into a radio show on NPR. I mean

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literally. So here we are as the projectors, right? Like I wasn't

Carole Murko:

looking for it, but I didn't know at the time that are my

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human design was somebody that didn't need to go looking for

Carole Murko:

things and and so I started interviewing people, and I had

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some, you know, normal everyday people to super famous people on

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my on my i. On my radio show, and then I raised some money to

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produce a public television special. So I was I had two

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nationally televised PBS shows that I hosted and executive

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produced. And part of why I think I got sick was the hustle

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was big during that time, right? I mean, it was PBS doesn't

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provide funding. I had to raise the sponsor funding on my own.

Carole Murko:

And then I just hustled. I kept doing my interior design. So I

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burnt, I I dreamed myself, right? I just and, you know,

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presto, the universe was like, here you go, Carol. We're going

Carole Murko:

to have you switch courses again, because you're still not

Carole Murko:

on the right path.

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, but that whole hustle thing, like we were

Jennifer Takagi:

kind of raised in that deal. If you want to get anywhere, you

Jennifer Takagi:

need to work really hard and hustle really hard and and

Jennifer Takagi:

heaven forbid you start this whole heirloom meals thing and

Jennifer Takagi:

heirloom recipes until it can be completely successful. So you

Jennifer Takagi:

better have two different things going TO to fund your dreams, if

Jennifer Takagi:

you will. So yeah, I can see that, but wow, it's a lot. So

Jennifer Takagi:

then your body's like, that might just be too much, right?

Jennifer Takagi:

Now, maybe you should just sit down a

Carole Murko:

minute. Yeah, yeah. And we're gonna, like,

Carole Murko:

affect your eyes, because you know you're all about beauty and

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seeing, but you haven't been using them appropriately. And so

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that took me that, you know, it's a profound was a profound

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opportunity for me to really, like, dig into the eye, the

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sight, the seeing aspects of what aren't I seeing about

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myself? What can't I see? What don't I want to see? What do

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people see in me? Right? All of that. And so I spend a lot of

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time thinking about that and and how I ended up doing, what I

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ultimately do is I, I found the work of Dr Jonah Dispenza, and I

Carole Murko:

thought that was also another complete fluke. So I was taking

Carole Murko:

a writing workshop at Kripalu, which is a big Yoga Retreat

Carole Murko:

Center here in the Berkshires, and one of the writing prompts

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was the hardest thing. And so I wrote about the prospect of

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becoming blind. Oh, and so this woman, we had to read our pieces

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out loud, and this woman comes bounding over to me after

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everybody had read their pieces, and she goes, have you heard of

Carole Murko:

Dr Joe Dispenza? And I said, No, is he at Mass? Eye and Ear. I

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, that makes sense, right?

Carole Murko:

She's like, Oh, no, he does these retreats. And

Carole Murko:

she said, I had a rare blood disease, and I went and I had a

Carole Murko:

spontaneous remission. I was like, Oh, how do you spell his

Carole Murko:

last name? Where?

Jennifer Takagi:

Where's the next one? I'm going. I've heard

Jennifer Takagi:

very magical and amazing,

Carole Murko:

but I wasn't. I had to have two more situations

Carole Murko:

to get me actually to sign up for one of his retreats. And

Carole Murko:

then I was teaching anti inflammatory cooking, and at the

Carole Murko:

end of the program, a woman says to me, I think you would really

Carole Murko:

like Dr Joe Dispenza. Have you heard of him? I was like, Maybe

Carole Murko:

I should revisit. And I still like, didn't quite I liked his

Carole Murko:

concept of what he was teaching, but I didn't like his

Carole Murko:

meditations. And then, and then I we were having Thanksgiving. I

Carole Murko:

don't know. It was probably 10 years, maybe probably seven

Carole Murko:

years, no How many years ago? Anyway, just nine years ago. And

Carole Murko:

my stepdaughter, who's now married to Jasper, said, can we

Carole Murko:

have Jasper's mom, who lives in Florida, come for New England

Carole Murko:

Thanksgiving? And I said, Sure, you know, now I've never met the

Carole Murko:

woman in my life walks in the house. I said, you know. And

Carole Murko:

literally, she has Dr Joe's book in her face, like this. Have you

Carole Murko:

heard of this guy? And right at that moment, I was like,

Carole Murko:

apparently this is the third time that night I went up inside

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to my office, which is on the third floor, and I I signed up

Carole Murko:

for a retreat. And of course, I had it was meant to be, because

Carole Murko:

his his retreats sell out like there's, yeah, I mean, I even

Carole Murko:

get in. So the universe led me there and and so that's that was

Carole Murko:

a mainstay of my healing, in addition to Qigong and. And, you

Carole Murko:

know, Italy, inflammatory, cooking and meditation,

Carole Murko:

journaling, and I wasn't even intending on doing this as a

Carole Murko:

career, but it just sort of all of a sudden made it clear to me

Carole Murko:

when I was started to heal, right, when all my symptoms

Carole Murko:

started going away. And they were bad symptoms, really bad. I

Carole Murko:

mean, I had, like, around 50 floaters in my eyes. So there

Carole Murko:

was, oh, it was always like, there was something in my, in my

Carole Murko:

in, in my way, right, like, vision, like, and then I would

Carole Murko:

get these, like, what I call a vitreous haze, like it would be,

Carole Murko:

like, all of a sudden this, like, it would be like I was

Carole Murko:

going through a fog bank, you know, just over so I couldn't

Carole Murko:

drive. And then the, what, I think is, what was the worst

Carole Murko:

symptom was when I would go from light to dark and dark to light,

Carole Murko:

my retinas couldn't adjust. So it would be like a really bad

Carole Murko:

disco for about 30 seconds, like, you know, with bad strobe

Carole Murko:

lights. And so I would have to, like, steady myself. And as I'm

Carole Murko:

doing the work, the symptoms are going away, until the last

Carole Murko:

symptom, which was the, which was the stroking. And then one

Carole Murko:

morning, I put the lights on, and I was like, Oh, my God, it's

Carole Murko:

gone and and so I believe that there are three things that we

Carole Murko:

need to heal. First, you have to believe you can with every like

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morsel of your body and soul. Secondly, you have to take

Carole Murko:

radical action. And the third is, I believe there's an

Carole Murko:

unwritten pack for the universe that when you heal yourself, you

Carole Murko:

become the healer. And that our, my voice, my what I my

Carole Murko:

experience, will speak to. I mean, how many billions of

Carole Murko:

people are there on the planet like that, that there will be

Carole Murko:

people who will relate to the way I, I I healed and inspire

Carole Murko:

and and there, that's why I decided to do it well.

Jennifer Takagi:

And I love that you have multiple modalities,

Jennifer Takagi:

because I also have multiple modalities, right? Because it,

Jennifer Takagi:

it takes more than one thing. I'm very much into both. And,

Jennifer Takagi:

like, there's a lot of good in modern medicine and and there's

Jennifer Takagi:

a awful lot that makes modern medicine go more smoothly when

Jennifer Takagi:

you have these other practices to go with it. So that's kind of

Jennifer Takagi:

like my belief system. So how do you how do you work with people?

Jennifer Takagi:

How do you help people? Like, how does that work? Because I'm

Jennifer Takagi:

always interested in how other healers approach the art, the

Jennifer Takagi:

gift, the craft.

Carole Murko:

Well, I I'll say I'm evolving, right? Um, as as

Carole Murko:

we should be, every single day. We should be anew. And so the

Carole Murko:

entry point so far has has been the Dr Joe Dispenza work. So I

Carole Murko:

am one of his trained neuro change solutions consultants. I

Carole Murko:

think there's maybe 300 of us in the world. There's, it's, it's,

Carole Murko:

you know, he, it's only he has one training a year, and it's

Carole Murko:

very hand picked and and why I love that program is it's based

Carole Murko:

in science and and biology and neuroscience, and for somebody

Carole Murko:

like me who went off to Wall Street, right? With that kind of

Carole Murko:

very logical brain and, and, and a lot of people in my circle are

Carole Murko:

skeptics, right?

Jennifer Takagi:

Like, yes, yes. I literally have people say,

Jennifer Takagi:

Would you do some voodoo on me? And I'm like, Okay, that's a

Jennifer Takagi:

religion. That's not what I do.

Carole Murko:

Yeah, and what I love is that it's I get to teach

Carole Murko:

the science and the neuroscience of how our brain and body work.

Carole Murko:

So it's just liberating for me, because I get to remember every

Carole Murko:

single time I teach it that I have all the same tools, and so

Carole Murko:

I get to remind myself and then share that we are designed to

Carole Murko:

heal. So that is really what I've I've had as an entry into

Carole Murko:

working with me, I offer it one on one in a retreat format,

Carole Murko:

online, virtual and but I've evolving, right? I I'm a Qigong

Carole Murko:

instructor. I'm a medical Qigong practitioner, which is an energy

Carole Murko:

healer, right? I use my life force energy, but that is an in

Carole Murko:

person practice. I can't. Do that distance, the medical

Carole Murko:

Qigong that is, you know, just pure like, you know, my life

Carole Murko:

force to you, right, whoever I'm healing and but I love the

Carole Murko:

fusion of them, because they're both quantum physics, right,

Carole Murko:

which basically, for anybody who isn't woo listening, you know,

Carole Murko:

it's basically, we're all, it's all, you know, it's Einstein.

Carole Murko:

You know, E equals MC squared. Matter and energy are

Carole Murko:

interchangeable. We're 99.99999% energy. And so the lens is,

Carole Murko:

Doctor is that is available through Doctor Joe Dispenza

Carole Murko:

work. It's available through Qigong and medical Qigong, and

Carole Murko:

that's where we get to that conscious eating concept, right?

Carole Murko:

Where, you know, yes, we could be conscious about, you know,

Carole Murko:

what we're eating, but I now look at it through the lens of

Carole Murko:

energy, right? And so I'm going to ask you a question, what do

Carole Murko:

you think both the energetics and the consciousness of a

Carole Murko:

dandelion is?

Jennifer Takagi:

I would not consider that a dandelion had

Jennifer Takagi:

consciousness. So that's, you know, like, my limiting belief,

Jennifer Takagi:

obviously. Um, and what was the first

Jennifer Takagi:

part of it, the energy,

Jennifer Takagi:

the energy, um, so a dandelion is alive, and it has energy, and

Jennifer Takagi:

it's made of energy, and all the cells are constantly moving,

Jennifer Takagi:

like it has all that movement. And that's as far as I can go.

Carole Murko:

So it's worth thinking about our food this

Carole Murko:

way, because if you think about dandelions, they pop up in the

Carole Murko:

lawn, and most people want to eliminate them, right? Knock

Carole Murko:

them off. Kill them, poison them. And this plant, every

Carole Murko:

single year, pops right back, back up, right, just like Hello.

Carole Murko:

And so the consciousness, I would suggest, is fearlessness,

Carole Murko:

courage and the energetics are, I think, aligned with that,

Carole Murko:

right, that so, so when you eat dandelion greens, or dandelion

Carole Murko:

you know, like tea or, I know you could buy dandelion root

Carole Murko:

tea, like when you eat it or sip it, just sit for a second. Not,

Carole Murko:

you don't just sit there. You know, you don't have don't have

Carole Murko:

to think about it that long, but you could just imagine that

Carole Murko:

you're digesting those energetics same for like an

Carole Murko:

apple. So an Apple has the consciousness of all four

Carole Murko:

seasons, because an apple tree lives through all four seasons,

Carole Murko:

right? It's not just a plant that comes up in the summer,

Carole Murko:

right, like tomatoes or right? It's, it's actually a tree,

Carole Murko:

right? So that tree, it has collected all the information

Carole Murko:

for that whole year until that Apple is available to us to to

Carole Murko:

eat, right? And so when we're eating that Apple, we are eating

Carole Murko:

all four seasons, right? All the consciousness, the you know, the

Carole Murko:

wind energy, the wood energy, all, all of that maple syrup,

Carole Murko:

right? Like, people are like, Oh, my God, that's sugar. And I

Carole Murko:

was like, No, it's possibility, because when does the maple

Carole Murko:

sugar run in the springtime, right? And that the tree has the

Carole Murko:

intelligence to produce this, this beautiful SAP, right? That

Carole Murko:

then we capture and so, so, so it's flow and possibility. So

Carole Murko:

that's kind of where I'm at with when I talk about food with

Carole Murko:

people, and when I and I did, I created a program called Kitchen

Carole Murko:

chi, which is a fusion of of what I, what I'm, what I'm

Carole Murko:

talking about, right where we're talking about energetics, we're

Carole Murko:

talking about Qigong movements. And then we go into the kitchen

Carole Murko:

and we actually create a meal that's that's attuned to the

Carole Murko:

season that we're in.

Jennifer Takagi:

So wow, I love that. It's so powerful, because

Jennifer Takagi:

you don't really think of all that goes into food. And like

Jennifer Takagi:

you say, tomato, the plants, like I've heard a lot of people

Jennifer Takagi:

complain about their plants are not producing this summer, which

Jennifer Takagi:

is kind of interesting. And but that, you know, an apple tree

Jennifer Takagi:

that trees there all year. Long, and it produces apples at a

Jennifer Takagi:

certain point, but the rest of it is still growing and thriving

Jennifer Takagi:

and and living its life. Wow. This is amazing. So if somebody

Jennifer Takagi:

wants to learn more about you, find out more about you, how do

Jennifer Takagi:

we how do we find you? Carol, other than like, going to the

Jennifer Takagi:

Berkshires,

Carole Murko:

creeping into me? Um, website. My website is love,

Carole Murko:

eat, heal.com. That's probably the best way. I mean, I have

Carole Murko:

social, you know, at love, eat, heal, on all the socials. I'm

Carole Murko:

not that great on them, honestly.

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, I mean, you can't be great at everything

Jennifer Takagi:

all the time, right? So, yeah, I love that. Part of

Carole Murko:

it might be an energy block, right? Part of it,

Carole Murko:

maybe I just haven't spent the time figuring out, like, what

Carole Murko:

you know, the difference between you can't do the same thing on

Carole Murko:

Facebook and Instagram, right? Like, and all that kind of

Carole Murko:

stuff. And I'm like, I don't have the bandwidth to figure

Carole Murko:

that out right, right at the moment, and I so far so good, I

Carole Murko:

haven't needed to,

Jennifer Takagi:

yeah, yeah. Well, I've often heard, you

Jennifer Takagi:

know, pick one platform, learn it and do it and, you know,

Carole Murko:

yeah, then it would be like, LinkedIn is my,

Carole Murko:

my more favorite platform. Oh, okay, I love it more, and that

Carole Murko:

would be my name, Carol Merkel, and I don't know it, just right

Carole Murko:

now, it has the more of a gravitas that that I like, and

Carole Murko:

it feels and and it's the place where I've gotten clients from,

Carole Murko:

from LinkedIn, clients that I don't even know how they found

Carole Murko:

me, but they

Jennifer Takagi:

that's always the funnest when you say, Hi.

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, how did you how did you find me? Yeah, I love it. Yeah,

Jennifer Takagi:

I I didn't meet up the other day through the growth day app, and

Jennifer Takagi:

this woman, I was like, I think I should know you. And she was,

Jennifer Takagi:

oh, yeah, we met at an event, and everybody told me I needed

Jennifer Takagi:

to get to know you. I needed to meet you. And I was like,

Jennifer Takagi:

perfect. That's what I always want to hear. Somebody said you

Jennifer Takagi:

needed to meet me. So I love that, Carol, this has been just

Jennifer Takagi:

so enlightening. And I love that you've had such a diverse

Jennifer Takagi:

journey I a number of years ago was talking to a friend's

Jennifer Takagi:

daughter, who was getting ready to start her junior year in high

Jennifer Takagi:

school. So college was a little bit away, but she had friends

Jennifer Takagi:

that were a year older, and they had already picked a university,

Jennifer Takagi:

they had already decided what they were majoring in, and she

Jennifer Takagi:

was just really distraught that she was behind, and I was like,

Jennifer Takagi:

Well, number one, you're not behind because they're a year

Jennifer Takagi:

ahead of you, like you're where you're supposed to be on this

Jennifer Takagi:

journey, I said, but it was May of my senior year of high school

Jennifer Takagi:

where I got some guidance and I switched Schools, and I declared

Jennifer Takagi:

a major and like, none of it was on my and what do they say now

Jennifer Takagi:

my bingo card, none of that was on my bingo card. And so

Jennifer Takagi:

sometimes things have to evolve and happen that lead you to the

Jennifer Takagi:

next thing or present that next opportunity. So sometimes we

Jennifer Takagi:

were like, Oh, I'm too late. And what was it? There's a famous

Jennifer Takagi:

painter, and she didn't pick up a paint brush till she was 70 or

Jennifer Takagi:

something. Who was that?

Carole Murko:

Oh no,

Jennifer Takagi:

gosh, okay, I'm going to look it up. I'll put it

Jennifer Takagi:

in the show notes. But it was like Mexico. Um, no, it was, it

Jennifer Takagi:

was like, she, she, she painted, like, real folksy country type

Jennifer Takagi:

things, like, 100 years ago.

Carole Murko:

Oh, like, Grandma Moses, yeah, maybe

Jennifer Takagi:

it was it, yeah, that's it. Grandma Moses,

Jennifer Takagi:

like, she didn't start painting till she, you know, all her kids

Jennifer Takagi:

are grown and gone, and so I just want to say it's not too

Jennifer Takagi:

late to evolve into what feels more like what you want to be to

Jennifer Takagi:

the audience. I'm saying that to you. So what is your final

Jennifer Takagi:

thought for the audience, on eat or love? Eat and heal like

Jennifer Takagi:

What's one thing we can do, one piece of optimistic thought,

Jennifer Takagi:

what do you got for us?

Carole Murko:

My optimistic thought is that you are the

Carole Murko:

miracle, and you know, the it's all within you, right? It's, you

Carole Murko:

know, we tend to look outside of ourselves, and all the all of

Carole Murko:

the wisdom and information is right inside of you.

Jennifer Takagi:

Oh my gosh, I love that. Thank you, Carol.

Jennifer Takagi:

Thank you for your insights, and thank you for your time. Time

Jennifer Takagi:

and and thank you for reaching out and getting to know me,

Jennifer Takagi:

because I've really loved

Jennifer Takagi:

getting to know you. Thank you so much, Jennifer.

Jennifer Takagi:

I'm Jennifer Takagi with destin for success, and I look forward

Jennifer Takagi:

to connecting with you soon. Bye.

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I am Jennifer Takagi, an Executive Leadership + Communication Coach who teaches leaders how to play well at work so they can drive better performance from people they lead, increase profitability and create a purposeful workplace where people want to come and play—productively.