Episode 295
Michelle Ricketts 3 Keys to Going from a Hobby to a Business | DFS 295
Get all the inside secrets and tools you need to help you develop your intuitive and leadership skills so you are on the path to the highest level of success with ease. Hobbies are great and it can be a great idea to turn your hobby into a business. How, you ask! How do I do that!
In this episode you will learn:
- Start with the foundation
- Create a business that makes revenue without YOU
- Build your brand and protect your intellectual property
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Transcript
Welcome to destined for success. I'm your
Jennifer Takagi:host Jennifer Takagi and today is one of my favorite days. It's
Jennifer Takagi:Potter Palooza Day where I get to meet amazing people and
Jennifer Takagi:interview them and bring their stories of success to you. My
Jennifer Takagi:guest now is Michelle Ricketts. She is a business consultant. 35
Jennifer Takagi:years of corporate experience, and now she is helping
Jennifer Takagi:entrepreneurs and business owners alike create the life of
Jennifer Takagi:their dreams. Michelle, welcome to the show.
Michelle Ricketts:Thank you, Jennifer. I'm so thrilled to be
Michelle Ricketts:here with you on pod Palooza Day.
Jennifer Takagi:I know it's so exciting. I have to do everyone.
Jennifer Takagi:So tell us a little bit about you and how you became so
Jennifer Takagi:passionate about what's going on in your world?
Michelle Ricketts:Absolutely. Well I did is that you said I
Michelle Ricketts:started in corporate I was in three major industry. So I
Michelle Ricketts:started in media, then transportation and logistics and
Michelle Ricketts:financial services on the credit card side of things. And then I
Michelle Ricketts:also had an event business that I didn't event series for
Michelle Ricketts:entrepreneurs because I wasn't event coordinator at the time as
Michelle Ricketts:a hobby. And that series really showed me I know crazy, right?
Michelle Ricketts:There's a reason I never did it is a reason I never did it full
Michelle Ricketts:time, it's too much work. I appreciate all the event
Michelle Ricketts:coordinators out there. But it really showed me that
Michelle Ricketts:entrepreneurs had gaps between some of the things that I
Michelle Ricketts:learned in corporate and the the even knowing that they had
Michelle Ricketts:access to some of this information. So that's really
Michelle Ricketts:what drove me to want to do something with entrepreneurs. So
Michelle Ricketts:after being restructured in my career, for the third time, I
Michelle Ricketts:decided that none of that I want to move into being an
Michelle Ricketts:entrepreneur myself. And so that really is the thing that
Michelle Ricketts:spearheaded me and has really enabled me to start to work with
Michelle Ricketts:entrepreneurs and I'm loving it.
Jennifer Takagi:That's so fun. I was in the federal government.
Jennifer Takagi:And they came in one day and said you have a choice, she can
Jennifer Takagi:retire, relocate. And I was like, I'm too young to retire.
Jennifer Takagi:But I'll take the packaging go. And that's
Michelle Ricketts:exactly excellent. I know when
Michelle Ricketts:somebody's gonna pay you to do something else. I always say to
Michelle Ricketts:people, yes, let them
Jennifer Takagi:Malaka CPA, who is also a financial planner, and
Jennifer Takagi:I was like, hey, this just came up and he goes, every client
Jennifer Takagi:who's ever come to me who said they worked for the federal
Jennifer Takagi:government or any corporation and they had any type of
Jennifer Takagi:retirement. I said go like if they will let you you need to go
Jennifer Takagi:just do anything else, because you like done your time. So now
Jennifer Takagi:now that I left, and now that I'm starting my entrepreneurial
Jennifer Takagi:journey, what do I need to know that? Like, would have been nice
Jennifer Takagi:to have known back then?
Michelle Ricketts:Absolutely. Well, there's some real key
Michelle Ricketts:things. And when I'm working with business owners, that one
Michelle Ricketts:of the things that I focus on is their foundational piece. So
Michelle Ricketts:it's that that incubator piece of being able to set up their
Michelle Ricketts:systems and their processes, so that they have something that
Michelle Ricketts:they can then delegate to others. So they are not doing
Michelle Ricketts:everything in their business. We hear about working on your
Michelle Ricketts:business versus working in your business, yes, you want to work
Michelle Ricketts:on it. So being able to focus on their business, one of the key
Michelle Ricketts:things I look at is being able to schedule, I was amazed,
Michelle Ricketts:Jennifer, I'm sure you use the calendar, right, and you are in
Michelle Ricketts:the government and different parts of life. But entrepreneurs
Michelle Ricketts:don't tend to do that. And they're scheduling and they've
Michelle Ricketts:got it to do list and they've got the personal thing. And it's
Michelle Ricketts:getting all of those together. My brother calls me the queen of
Michelle Ricketts:calendar. And it really is about being able to focus on I say, my
Michelle Ricketts:calendar is my life. I don't have to think about I don't keep
Michelle Ricketts:it up here. I look at it, what do I need to do I look at it the
Michelle Ricketts:night before I see how I have to set up my day, where do I have
Michelle Ricketts:to be? What do I have to wear, etc. So being able to integrate
Michelle Ricketts:your personal calendar, your to do list your tasks, all of those
Michelle Ricketts:things into one place, and hopefully electronically, and
Michelle Ricketts:not on paper because electronic is much easier. But even if it's
Michelle Ricketts:on paper, you still want it in one place. Right? Jennifer? Can
Michelle Ricketts:you relate?
Jennifer Takagi:I can and I was looking at my calendar. I think
Jennifer Takagi:Monday today's Wednesday, I was looking at Monday and I thought
Jennifer Takagi:there there's an overlap that is never gonna work. And I'm
Jennifer Takagi:getting your I have my knee replaced. I really hate to have
Jennifer Takagi:to do that. But that's better than what I've been living with.
Jennifer Takagi:And somebody scheduled a podcast interview. And I don't know that
Jennifer Takagi:it's gonna be dead in time for me to get to my pre op
Jennifer Takagi:appointment. So I had to break down and just do a reschedule
Jennifer Takagi:and then send an email and say, hey, if what I rescheduled it to
Jennifer Takagi:you doesn't work, but I have a gap in my calendar. And what's
Jennifer Takagi:happening is I put something on my personal calendar, and it's
Jennifer Takagi:not allowing any time before or after. So like everything lined
Jennifer Takagi:up beautifully. If I got to the doctor on time, if I got out on
Jennifer Takagi:time we're going to do all the things but guess
Michelle Ricketts:what? Life happens.
Jennifer Takagi:Does it totally does. So yeah, that's something
Jennifer Takagi:I put a little star there. I still need to figure that out,
Jennifer Takagi:like, what do I do and Patti? So that's great. And I'm gonna say
Jennifer Takagi:I'm, I'm kind of a just do it, girl. And so I literally decided
Jennifer Takagi:that I was going to start this business. But I was going to
Jennifer Takagi:take a month off. And I did take a month off. And the very first
Jennifer Takagi:day of the month of the following month, my phone rang
Jennifer Takagi:and this woman said, Hey, Jennifer, I'm in Oklahoma City.
Jennifer Takagi:We're in Fort Worth, and we're going to do a conference in a
Jennifer Takagi:couple months. Can you come do all day training? Yes, I can.
Jennifer Takagi:Okay, I thought that was the rest of my life like I would
Jennifer Takagi:just keep bringing. It didn't know.
Michelle Ricketts:Unfortunately, it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't,
Michelle Ricketts:then it's a matter of planning that. And that's I mean, you
Michelle Ricketts:bring up a great point, planning, putting things in your
Michelle Ricketts:calendar. So it's not just about your meetings and tasks. It's
Michelle Ricketts:about the things you've got to do in your business looking at
Michelle Ricketts:how am I generating leads? Am I networking? How am I getting
Michelle Ricketts:myself out there so that others know about my business, because
Michelle Ricketts:as you said, the business doesn't just come to you, right,
Michelle Ricketts:you've got to make sure you do the work around it. And you've
Michelle Ricketts:got to have the time to do the work around. And I call it time
Michelle Ricketts:blocking Jennifer, where people actually put what they need in
Michelle Ricketts:their calendar. And that way, they have the time to do
Michelle Ricketts:whatever it is in the calendar and block and you only have so
Michelle Ricketts:many hours in the day. So when you look at that time, and you
Michelle Ricketts:guys, you said things can't overlap, you got to have
Michelle Ricketts:different things done at different times. So having that
Michelle Ricketts:blocking of time and tasks and lead generation and sales. And
Michelle Ricketts:all of that is definitely something that you need to be
Michelle Ricketts:able to do in your business.
Jennifer Takagi:That and for your life because we aren't
Jennifer Takagi:entrepreneurs, and just so that we can work 80 hours a week,
Jennifer Takagi:right? We got freedom. So I don't have children. But I've
Jennifer Takagi:got a lot of nieces and nephews and I'm called upon. Can you go
Jennifer Takagi:pick this one up? This one car's broken? Can you help out? Yes.
Jennifer Takagi:And I tried to say yes, as much as I can. But it's that family
Jennifer Takagi:time. My husband's like, well, what time are you going to be
Jennifer Takagi:off the video? Well, yeah, later, babe, like later. And so
Jennifer Takagi:again, you have to book that into like, Absolutely. All the
Jennifer Takagi:other aspects of your life as well.
Michelle Ricketts:I say I love that. Jennifer, you're so right.
Michelle Ricketts:I say work life integration. People talk about balance,
Michelle Ricketts:you're not gonna ever have balance? No, it's integrating
Michelle Ricketts:the two. So they work together and you hit the nail on the
Michelle Ricketts:head. It's putting the personal things in the calendar, as a
Michelle Ricketts:person and relationship whatever relationship it is, date night,
Michelle Ricketts:put it on the calendar time with kids picking up kids running
Michelle Ricketts:errands. I even put my grocery when I'm going grocery shopping
Michelle Ricketts:on the calendar, because you don't do it if you don't have
Michelle Ricketts:time for it. Work Life integration. Absolutely.
Jennifer Takagi:I had somebody staying with me and I had to
Jennifer Takagi:bake my best friend's granddaughter's birthday cake
Jennifer Takagi:and bake also, now mostly just from coming to your house. Yeah,
Jennifer Takagi:people I love. And I woke up early. And the night before I
Jennifer Takagi:had gotten on the app, and I had ordered all the things I needed
Jennifer Takagi:to bake this cake. And, like guess that was staying with me
Jennifer Takagi:was like, Wait, where did those groceries come from? And I was
Jennifer Takagi:like, I ordered them last night because Oh, wow, I thought you
Jennifer Takagi:got up really early. It was like, No, I ordered them last
Jennifer Takagi:night, because that's how I'm gonna save time. I don't have to
Jennifer Takagi:go. I know the ingredients I need. And so I ordered them.
Jennifer Takagi:That's awesome. So that foundational piece critical.
Jennifer Takagi:Even all these years later, I can have a little more work on
Jennifer Takagi:that. So what else? What's the next PM? Foundation? Let's
Jennifer Takagi:pretend.
Michelle Ricketts:Yeah, so the foundation is there. So one of
Michelle Ricketts:the other things then you want to be able to do is have your
Michelle Ricketts:what how are you going to make revenue you have you whether
Michelle Ricketts:it's your product or your service, whatever that is. But
Michelle Ricketts:you also want to be able to make revenue that doesn't involve
Michelle Ricketts:you. And that's having a recurring revenue. So sometimes
Michelle Ricketts:it's going to be a subscription, or it's going to be a package of
Michelle Ricketts:something, but you want to look at what can I put together. And
Michelle Ricketts:an example I was just talking to someone about as a personal
Michelle Ricketts:trainer, they have, whether in person, they're doing a lot, but
Michelle Ricketts:they have downtime in the middle of the day. And if you can set
Michelle Ricketts:up with another time zone, that you can do something online as a
Michelle Ricketts:personal trainer, you're now making revenue in a timeframe
Michelle Ricketts:you weren't before and with clients in a place that you're
Michelle Ricketts:not there. Now that still requires them. But if they then
Michelle Ricketts:take that and make it into a program that they can offer, or
Michelle Ricketts:they do something offline, that's showing exercises and
Michelle Ricketts:develop a program that something that they can now offer to
Michelle Ricketts:clients that doesn't require them in person. Business owner
Michelle Ricketts:can do the same thing and it's just a matter of looking at I
Michelle Ricketts:love your baking analogy. So Baker, you could actually share
Michelle Ricketts:your recipes and have that as a subscription. So it's something
Michelle Ricketts:that doesn't require them. And then now you've got a recurring
Michelle Ricketts:revenue stream. So you may want to pull that baking out and use
Michelle Ricketts:it for something else. Yeah.
Jennifer Takagi:I tell you, I'm 80% done with a boozy cookbook,
Jennifer Takagi:and every recipe is gonna have some kind of, you know, Bailey's
Jennifer Takagi:or kulula something fun. I
Michelle Ricketts:love it. I love it. I love it. That's
Michelle Ricketts:amazing. Yes, and it's just it's something else. And yet, it's
Michelle Ricketts:something fun, which is the other thing too, if you can get
Michelle Ricketts:fun into that equation, that's even better. So you've got that
Michelle Ricketts:foundation, now you've got something that's going to
Michelle Ricketts:generate you recurring revenue, that to be able to market all of
Michelle Ricketts:that you need to have a brand. So part of that is developing
Michelle Ricketts:your intellectual property. So it's having something that's
Michelle Ricketts:just you. And in some cases, it may be about trademarking and
Michelle Ricketts:all that. But you don't have to start with that. You start with
Michelle Ricketts:what is you know, and yes, a logo and a website and all that,
Michelle Ricketts:that's great, but that's not a brand. Those are just the stuff
Michelle Ricketts:that come along with it. You often are your own brand, and
Michelle Ricketts:how do you market yourself? How do you market your business, as
Michelle Ricketts:well as having talking points that you can come on a podcast
Michelle Ricketts:with someone like you, Jennifer, and know how to articulate what
Michelle Ricketts:your business is in a way that others can understand it? So
Michelle Ricketts:having those talking points, having your call to action? All
Michelle Ricketts:of those things you're familiar with Jennifer right?
Jennifer Takagi:Yes, and I just want to throw out there you
Jennifer Takagi:mentioned you know, you need a website, but like the other
Jennifer Takagi:stuff is more important. We are on potty Palooza and those of
Jennifer Takagi:you who are listening and you don't know potty Palooza, you
Jennifer Takagi:need to know potty palooza. And it is the brainchild of Michelle
Jennifer Takagi:Abraham and Kimberly Crowe. Michelle, has she started a
Jennifer Takagi:podcast business a long before she had her own podcast, and now
Jennifer Takagi:she has it all.
Michelle Ricketts:She's the queen of podcasting.
Jennifer Takagi:I don't believe she has a website.
Michelle Ricketts:Yeah, that's a good point.
Jennifer Takagi:She didn't have a six figure business.
Michelle Ricketts:There's a podcaster. Pastor and
Jennifer Takagi:and doing all the backend a podcast and she
Jennifer Takagi:does not have a website. So when the people tell you, you have to
Jennifer Takagi:have a website to have a business. I'm just gonna say
Jennifer Takagi:maybe not like I've invested 1000s and 1000s. I've been
Jennifer Takagi:screwed every which way to Sunday on? Oh, yeah, we'll fix
Jennifer Takagi:that. They didn't fix it. Oh, yeah, paste this will integrate
Jennifer Takagi:that they didn't integrate it. Oh, I'll make you a sales cart.
Jennifer Takagi:Oh, but wait, I'm not going to connect it to anything. Yes,
Jennifer Takagi:I've seen it all. I've done it all. And yes, I'm a martyr about
Jennifer Takagi:it at this point. Now my stuff works. And I'm very, very happy.
Jennifer Takagi:But it can take a long time. So just so you know, website
Jennifer Takagi:doesn't necessarily have to be the first thing on your list. I
Jennifer Takagi:love that. Story, and I love it. Yeah,
Michelle Ricketts:I'll add to that, too, as you say that. Did
Michelle Ricketts:you know just a fun fact? Michelle Abraham was previously
Michelle Ricketts:Michelle Ricketts. Yes, I did. Live in the same city. So it was
Michelle Ricketts:confusing. Yeah,
Michelle Ricketts:yes. Yeah. But anyway, what I was
Michelle Ricketts:gonna say what I was gonna say about this, they were saying
Michelle Ricketts:about not having a website. So yes, you and I are back when
Michelle Ricketts:websites were the thing to have. And I paid lots of money for the
Michelle Ricketts:first one I had. And it wasn't what I have one. Now, because I
Michelle Ricketts:still have the domain. However, people can have a landing page.
Michelle Ricketts:And one of the things that my brother's team does digital
Michelle Ricketts:Samurai, they actually help businesses with all the IP stuff
Michelle Ricketts:I was just talking about. So but we use landing pages and Google
Michelle Ricketts:Sites. And so you don't have to spend 1000s and 1000s of
Michelle Ricketts:dollars. And when you have a landing page, you can actually
Michelle Ricketts:actually gear that towards whatever it is you're promoting.
Michelle Ricketts:So is it part of palooza? Or is it your boozy baking book or
Michelle Ricketts:something else? So you can you can change them very easily. And
Michelle Ricketts:so that's one of the things we work with clients on, but also
Michelle Ricketts:having those other call to action, talking points, their
Michelle Ricketts:branding, all of that we work with them on that as well. Gosh,
Jennifer Takagi:that's often awesome. So we've got our
Jennifer Takagi:foundation, we've got our how to make revenue. Is that branding
Jennifer Takagi:piece that third or is that part of the revenue? Do you have a
Jennifer Takagi:third point? Yeah,
Michelle Ricketts:that the branding is kind of the third
Michelle Ricketts:point. But yeah, that intellectual property and being
Michelle Ricketts:able to develop that as part of that and sometimes you get to a
Michelle Ricketts:point where that is then now you want to do trademarks and all of
Michelle Ricketts:that. But first you got to develop and see what that is.
Michelle Ricketts:And what's going to be able to tie into that making money while
Michelle Ricketts:you speak or while I'm sorry while you sleep.
Jennifer Takagi:I love that and I'm just going to throw out
Jennifer Takagi:there from my own personal experience because you know,
Jennifer Takagi:it's my podcast is all about me. Not really, sorta my business
Jennifer Takagi:has changed so many times. I'm coming up on 10 years as an
Jennifer Takagi:entrepreneur, sometimes full time sometimes like vacations a
Jennifer Takagi:little bit. much, not always fully focused, which happens,
Jennifer Takagi:right? That's easy to do. Yeah. But I started out doing
Jennifer Takagi:leadership development training. And I still do. That is still
Jennifer Takagi:something I do. I love to do it. I love it when the great state
Jennifer Takagi:of Oklahoma calls and says, Will you do a two day training on
Jennifer Takagi:transitioning into a management role? Yes. Sign me up. I'm happy
Jennifer Takagi:to do it. Right. But then I got into energy work and energy
Jennifer Takagi:healing. And it was like, Wow, I love healing people. I love
Jennifer Takagi:changing their life. I, I was at an event and at lunch, somebody
Jennifer Takagi:goes, Can you fix her back? And I was like, Yeah, probably. And
Jennifer Takagi:I did. It's not me. It's the work, right? It's not me. It's
Jennifer Takagi:the work. Yeah. So I love that. But then it kind of came full
Jennifer Takagi:circle. And now I'm the 12 Minute Success Coach based on a
Jennifer Takagi:book I wrote, and you know, coming up with this on my own, I
Jennifer Takagi:need to trademarked out. I'm just saying, yes, yes, I totally
Jennifer Takagi:need you. But I can help you break your goals into small
Jennifer Takagi:increments. And that's a 12 minute success. But the energy
Jennifer Takagi:healing I do is quick and easy. It's not years and years. It's
Jennifer Takagi:quick, it's easy. So I say all that to encourage people to go
Jennifer Takagi:ahead and do it because it's going to evolve. Michelle told
Jennifer Takagi:us this morning on her keynote talk, how she waited too long
Jennifer Takagi:have a podcast because she didn't know what she wanted to
Jennifer Takagi:talk about forever. It doesn't have to be forever, it can
Jennifer Takagi:evolve, it can grow. I'm not the same person. I was in
Jennifer Takagi:kindergarten, because I can time now.
Michelle Ricketts:Absolutely. And I love that. I love that
Michelle Ricketts:because that's one of the things that sets me apart from or
Michelle Ricketts:differentiates me from other business consultants or coaches
Michelle Ricketts:is because the wellness piece wellness practitioners, yes,
Michelle Ricketts:yes, yes, absolutely. All day long. It's the one thing that
Michelle Ricketts:has helped me through my entire life. I do a keynote as the
Michelle Ricketts:tenacious speaker, and it's about being able to get through
Michelle Ricketts:stuff. And part of that is my health and wellness background
Michelle Ricketts:that has always supported me. And yeah, so I absolutely love
Michelle Ricketts:that because people a lot of times and business owners ignore
Michelle Ricketts:what their body is trying to tell them, their body talks to
Michelle Ricketts:them, it tells us what we need to do, it tells us what we don't
Michelle Ricketts:need to do. And we need to listen. And sometimes you need a
Michelle Ricketts:practitioner, like yourself, to be able to help to get through
Michelle Ricketts:that. So I applaud and support all practitioners, alternative
Michelle Ricketts:practitioners as well. Because, yes, medicine is one thing, and
Michelle Ricketts:there's some things it'll identify, but a lot of times,
Michelle Ricketts:it's not the pills and the remedies, and all of that they
Michelle Ricketts:give you in regular medicine is some holistic approach.
Jennifer Takagi:Yeah, I'm a big both and kind of girl, like,
Jennifer Takagi:everything has its place. And I'm getting ready to have my
Jennifer Takagi:knee replaced. And I really hate that I have to do that. But I'm
Jennifer Takagi:not willing to wait another three or four years because the
Jennifer Takagi:last six months have been horrible. So I'm all about
Jennifer Takagi:those. Well, I feel faster because the work I do.
Jennifer Takagi:Absolutely. Yeah,
Michelle Ricketts:you know, absolutely, absolutely. So
Michelle Ricketts:Michelle luck with that. Good luck with that.
Jennifer Takagi:I'm gonna bounce back so fast, they're not
Jennifer Takagi:gonna do well. So tell me, how are we gonna get ahold of you
Jennifer Takagi:have anybody in the audience? If you want to work with Michelle
Jennifer Takagi:or find out more about her and how she shows up in the world?
Jennifer Takagi:How are we gonna find you?
Michelle Ricketts:Absolutely. Well, for your listeners, I'm on
Michelle Ricketts:all the social media platforms. So Michelle Ricketts, or
Michelle Ricketts:cohesion services and you recognize my picture. From here,
Michelle Ricketts:I do look like this. And everything. And that's the
Michelle Ricketts:that's the best place. LinkedIn is always probably the best one
Michelle Ricketts:to get to me that you can go there but I am all on social
Michelle Ricketts:media platforms or cohesion. services.com is my website as
Michelle Ricketts:well. Yes, I do actually have the domain first. It's 2014.
Jennifer Takagi:We have to have these days. I've got a lot of
Jennifer Takagi:domains. Now I need to go through and see which ones I'm
Jennifer Takagi:actually going to use and which ones I can drop. Michelle has
Jennifer Takagi:been awesome. I love that. Get your foundation. Figure out how
Jennifer Takagi:you're gonna make revenue and build that brand and make sure
Jennifer Takagi:that it's fun. I have loved our time together today.
Michelle Ricketts:Thank you as well and that thanks for having
Michelle Ricketts:me as a guest. It's been wonderful.
Jennifer Takagi:I look forward to seeing you again. I'm
Jennifer Takagi:Jennifer Takagi with destined for success and I look forward
Jennifer Takagi:to connecting with you soon.