Episode 352
Joy, Anyway with Jan Hoath | DFS 352
Get all the inside secrets and tools you need to help you develop your intuitive and leadership skills so you are on the path to the highest level of success with ease. Jan has had many experiences that could have kept her from experiencing Joy, but she has discovered how to find it and how you can too!
In this episode you will learn:
- Joy as a Transformative Force
- Tools for Choosing Joy
- Support and Connection in Adversity
Jan Hoath, The JOY Alchemist, is a speaker, bestselling author, and coach to women leaders ready to reclaim JOY as their superpower. As the creator of the Happiness Prism™ and founder of Atomic JOY, she guides women to lead with heart, align with purpose, and rise through adversity—not in spite of it, but with JOY, anyway.
Drawing from her roots as a leadership coach, mindfulness teacher, and former professional ski instructor, Jan brings a unique blend of wisdom, soul, and spark to everything she does. Whether she’s trail running in the mountains, meditating with moose, dancing in her kitchen, or coaching from her log cabin in Wyoming, Jan lives what she teaches—surrounded by her awesome Aussie husband, two amazing kids, a goofy Bernese mountain dog, and one fiercely independent cat.
From the quiet of her cabin in the Wyoming woods to stages and circles around the world, Jan is here to spark a JOY revolution—one brave heart at a time.
Website: http://www.janhoath.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/janhoath/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/janhoath/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janhoath
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/janhoath
If you are ready to start reaching your goals instead of simply dreaming about it, start today with 12minutegift.com!
Buy your copy of the the Best Selling Book, 12 Minutes to Success on Amazon: https://a.co/d/beBleiW
Grab your FREE meditation: Reduce Your Anxiety MEDITATION
Are you ready to tiptoe into your intuition and tap into your soul’s message? Let’s talk
Listen in as Jennifer Takagi, founder of Takagi Consulting, 7X time Amazon.Com Best Selling-Author, Certified Soul Care Coach, Certified Jack Canfield Success Principle Trainer, Certified Professional Behavioral Analyst and Facilitator of the DISC Behavioral Profiles, Certified Change Style Indicator Facilitator, Law of Attraction Practitioner, and Certified Coaching Specialist - leadership entrepreneur, speaker and trainer, shares the lessons she’s learned along the way. Each episode is designed to give you the tools, ideas, and inspiration to lead with integrity. Humor is a big part of Jennifer’s life, so expect a few puns and possibly some sarcasm. Tune in for a motivational guest, a story or tips to take you even closer to that success you’ve been coveting. Please share the episodes that inspired you the most and be sure to leave a comment.
Official Website: http://www.takagiconsulting.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifertakagi/
Facebook: facebook.com/takagiconsulting
I look forward to connecting with you soon, Jennifer
Jennifer Takagi
Speaker, Trainer, Author, Catalyst for Healing
PS: We would love to hear from you! For questions, coaching, or to book interviews, please email my team at Jennifer@takagiconsulting.com
Transcript
Well, welcome to Destin for success. I'm your
Jennifer Takagi:host, Jennifer Takagi, and today is a special, special day. I'm
Jennifer Takagi:so excited to have my friend Jan Hoth on the show. Jan has a new
Jennifer Takagi:book coming out. Joy. Anyway, Jan, I'm so happy to be able to
Jennifer Takagi:visit with you and talk about your journey and your book, why
Jennifer Takagi:you wrote it, and thanks for being here today.
Jan Hoath:Oh my gosh, Jennifer, thank you. And it's so awesome
Jan Hoath:to be here with our our listeners, and to get to share
Jan Hoath:about the book, because it does mean everything to me, and it's
Jan Hoath:such an honor to be here with you to talk about
Jennifer Takagi:it. And so when I met Jan, we are in a
Jennifer Takagi:mastermind group together. I think we call it a mastermind. I
Jennifer Takagi:don't know what Shiraz calls it. We're in a we're in a thing
Jennifer Takagi:together. We have a lot of people we cross paths with.
Jennifer Takagi:Unfortunately, we haven't met in person, but that will be coming.
Jennifer Takagi:Yes. And Jan had her name Jan Joy hoof. And I was like, is it
Jennifer Takagi:Jan? Is it joy? And I kept getting mixed up. And she was
Jennifer Takagi:like, Well, it's actually Jan, but like, joy is my thing. And I
Jennifer Takagi:was like, alright. And she goes, but I'll answer to joy. It's
Jennifer Takagi:like, great. So Jan, how did you get in the business of joy?
Jennifer Takagi:Because I love it. That's a super high vibration word. I was
Jennifer Takagi:at a retreat, and we had to decide, like, what next level we
Jennifer Takagi:wanted to get to on the on the chart of emotions and
Jennifer Takagi:vibrations. And I was like, Yeah, I want to go to joy. And
Jennifer Takagi:this woman looked at me, and she goes, that's a few steps. So you
Jennifer Takagi:might, you might just go a little bit at a time to you hit
Jennifer Takagi:the joy. And I was like, Oh, I have to go in steps
Jennifer Takagi:incrementally. Okay, so, yeah, I have a question about that. So
Jennifer Takagi:how did you get into this whole joy business? I love it
Jan Hoath:well, and I already have my thoughts on that. I'm
Jan Hoath:like, for you. Jennifer, no, you can skip the steps. And I hope
Jan Hoath:that's encouraging to everyone here Like honestly, by the end
Jan Hoath:of this podcast, I hope that everyone listening is already
Jan Hoath:feeling a little bit, if not a lot, more joyful. And I'm in the
Jan Hoath:business of joy, because it really is who I am at my core. I
Jan Hoath:believe it was a mission and a message that I was brought into
Jan Hoath:this world to bring and share, and where it has come so
Jan Hoath:profoundly, and why this book, and we'll get into why now, but
Jan Hoath:why this book is because I've had so much not joy in my life
Jan Hoath:that has caused me to understand and appreciate this mission,
Jan Hoath:message, embodiment of joy that much more. Because, just like
Jan Hoath:anything like when we have the opposite of when you feel
Jan Hoath:depressed and sad or heavy or angry, like the idea of having
Jan Hoath:joy feel so far away, and yet, when you do get there again,
Jan Hoath:then it's like, oh, like there's elation. And even ecstasy at
Jan Hoath:that point, you know, like there's just a profound
Jan Hoath:experience of wonder and delight. And I just, I just so
Jan Hoath:believe in the fact that, like, Joy is meant to be. And my dog
Jan Hoath:is a Bernese Mountain dogs, by the way, so she is very joyful
Jan Hoath:and loves to underscore what I have to say. So if she pipes up
Jan Hoath:in the background, she's just like, you know, emphasizing
Jan Hoath:she's my bold face for communication. Yes, so and I
Jan Hoath:believe joy is a birthright, and I believe that so many of us
Jan Hoath:forget that, that we come into this world and life happens, and
Jan Hoath:then all of a sudden it's like where you're surviving, and
Jan Hoath:we're here, following a path that maybe wasn't ours, but
Jan Hoath:we're trying to make good and make do. And the more that I
Jan Hoath:have journeyed in my life, and I'm late 40s now, happily 47
Jan Hoath:here at this time, and as I've journeyed my life, and I grew up
Jan Hoath:moving a lot, and I grew up experiencing adversity and
Jan Hoath:diversity, living overseas, included really discovered that
Jan Hoath:there is an underlying desire for joy that has not been spoken
Jan Hoath:about and taught and provided for in a meaningful, practical
Jan Hoath:application, and that's where I feel I am meant to be one of
Jan Hoath:these, not one of these. The leading expert, the joy
Jan Hoath:Alchemist, if you will, to talk about this and and to
Jan Hoath:demonstrate and it, to teach it. And this book is, is really just
Jan Hoath:a, you know, portal into my world that my clients also get
Jan Hoath:to feel, because I'm really believe in the Transform,
Jan Hoath:transform. Transforming powers that joy provides when you know
Jan Hoath:how to access it. So the book, you know talks about, and I know
Jan Hoath:you've read it, which is so awesome, the in the book, I talk
Jan Hoath:about different stories that I've had to experience and grown
Jan Hoath:through and not had to I've gotten to because I believe
Jan Hoath:everything happens for us, and it's an opportunity to learn and
Jan Hoath:to grow and discover more of ourselves. I mean, I know you
Jan Hoath:have an incredible backstory yourself, many of them, and yet,
Jan Hoath:your experience of surviving the Oklahoma City bombing like I
Jan Hoath:just just floored by that. And yet, all of us, everyone
Jan Hoath:listening I know, has experienced challenges and
Jan Hoath:adversity, and I really believe now is the time to open up the
Jan Hoath:conversation for possibility, to not let this joy thing be a
Jan Hoath:someday nice to have at the end, happy ending, Tra, la, la, no,
Jan Hoath:it's raw. It's real, and you get to have it now. No matter what,
Jan Hoath:you get to have it now. Anyway,
Jennifer Takagi:I love that. And what came to mind for me, I
Jennifer Takagi:adored my mom. She was wonderful, and I was, I don't
Jennifer Takagi:know, in my 30s. I could have been in my 40s, but I think I
Jennifer Takagi:was probably still in my 30s, and it became very apparent my
Jennifer Takagi:mom lived a good life. She raised four kids, took care of
Jennifer Takagi:the house, took care of my dad. They adored each other. They
Jennifer Takagi:loved each other so much. They literally died 12 days apart. It
Jennifer Takagi:was heartbreaking for us, but they didn't want to be a part
Jennifer Takagi:more than that. And she lived her life out of a sense of duty.
Jennifer Takagi:Like, everything she did was a duty, like, I have to do this,
Jennifer Takagi:because it's a duty. I have to do that. And I was talking to
Jennifer Takagi:our preacher one time about it, and I was like, Well, you have
Jennifer Takagi:to do all these things. And he went, Well, what if you did them
Jennifer Takagi:out of love, like, What? What? If you just shifted that thought
Jennifer Takagi:of, I have to do this, or my name will be mud into, Wow, I
Jennifer Takagi:love my family, and I want to do this to show that I love them.
Jennifer Takagi:Some days it is a duty. Let's be clear. Some days I have to load
Jennifer Takagi:the dishwasher and turn it on. Like, some days you have to do
Jennifer Takagi:the things but, but do you have to do everything that way? And I
Jennifer Takagi:remember when my mom turned 50, it was like a really big deal,
Jennifer Takagi:and something snapped in her, and she became a different
Jennifer Takagi:person from 50 until she died at 73 she was a different person
Jennifer Takagi:because she decided at 50, oh, I can live my life, but she had
Jennifer Takagi:gone all the way till 50, getting all our kids out of the
Jennifer Takagi:house, and, you know, grandkids and all things. And so when I
Jennifer Takagi:was reading your book, I was like, Yeah, this would have been
Jennifer Takagi:so helpful for my mom, because you don't have to wait till
Jennifer Takagi:you're 50 and get all the kids out of the house. Yes, you quit
Jennifer Takagi:living in a sense of duty and start living from a place of
Jennifer Takagi:joy. So, yeah, oh, I love this. I love this. Okay, keep going.
Jan Hoath:Oh, I love what you just shared, too. And that's
Jan Hoath:actually I have to tell you, I've added a section in the book
Jan Hoath:since you read it, of joy. Anyway, at any age. I love that,
Jan Hoath:yeah. And really dove into that aspect, because I have a client
Jan Hoath:that's 81 and we're getting into her joy anyway, at her age, and
Jan Hoath:looking at how is it working when we slow down, but then I
Jan Hoath:also have, like, a college student reading it, and she's
Jan Hoath:all excited, because she's stepping out of her identity and
Jan Hoath:stepping into her new joy expression, and is inspired by
Jan Hoath:the stories in the book. And I just, I so appreciate you
Jan Hoath:talking about your mom, because it's like, you know, yes, my
Jan Hoath:audience and my book is kind of centered towards women. It's for
Jan Hoath:anyone who's interested in this conversation. And it's yet
Jan Hoath:coming from a feminine voice, because it is about that
Jan Hoath:creation and expression, and if I don't really talk about in the
Jan Hoath:book, and yet it's background with divine feminine energy of
Jan Hoath:Creation and flow and nourishment and upliftment and
Jan Hoath:nurturing. And that's what my intention for the book is to be
Jan Hoath:impart, like a big fat cheerleading, like upliftment,
Jan Hoath:joy, boost, and then also, like anecdotal, like, you can do
Jan Hoath:this, anybody can do this. Just lean in, take one step at a
Jan Hoath:time, honor who you are and where you are and and no matter
Jan Hoath:what your face like no matter what you're facing, and it can
Jan Hoath:be the dishes, cleaning the toilet like we joke in our
Jan Hoath:house. You know, I'm very much my husband are very much about
Jan Hoath:advocates of our kids. You know, being part of the family
Jan Hoath:activity, and my daughter has learned how to clean a toilet
Jan Hoath:joyfully by putting her. Earbuds in. So Joy anyway, there's a
Jan Hoath:chapter on a joy anyway, every day and every in any way,
Jan Hoath:anytime there's lots of any, for a reason, because joy isn't
Jan Hoath:meant to just be sitting on a shelf. Joy isn't meant to be
Jan Hoath:left for vacation days and for birthdays and for whatever else.
Jan Hoath:And I feel like my dogs in the background going, amen, amen,
Jan Hoath:preach it, because this is what's it's so exciting. And
Jan Hoath:again, thank you for hosting me today, and thank you everyone
Jan Hoath:for listening, because I'm so fired up about this right now,
Jan Hoath:because I know and this is going to make me cry. I know so many
Jan Hoath:people are hurting and are in our unnecessary pain, or like
Jan Hoath:your mom and unnecessary relationship with life that it's
Jan Hoath:dutiful, you can get your stuff done. And I believe joy is the
Jan Hoath:basis to grit. It's the secret to grit. This
Unknown:dog is cracking
Jan Hoath:me up. She's like, Hey, man, preacher mama. She
Jan Hoath:hears me preach it all the time, but today's that much more
Jan Hoath:preachy because, maybe because the book's coming out, and we
Jan Hoath:know that, and it's like, this is a big deal. This book is not
Jan Hoath:something I just sat down and wrote one day, and I know you
Jan Hoath:could feel that when you read it like this really is a legacy
Jan Hoath:piece for me, but it's the first of many. Like, I know there's so
Jan Hoath:much more to say on this subject, and you know, I got the
Jan Hoath:feedback from another friend just this morning, and she said,
Jan Hoath:Jan, you know, this book, for me is so much what's needed,
Jan Hoath:because it's not toxic positivity. It's not just a
Jan Hoath:hypey Happy book. It's like, you really, get in there, like I
Jan Hoath:really, and that's my intention, because I've faced a cancer
Jan Hoath:scare with my then six week old son, which, you know, I talk
Jan Hoath:about in the book. I faced the tragedy and the death of my
Jan Hoath:mother in law that was so traumatic and dramatic at the
Jan Hoath:time that it rocked our world, and it rocked, actually, entire
Jan Hoath:communities because of what happened and how it happened.
Jan Hoath:And it's just, you know, whether people are facing political or
Jan Hoath:economical or relational or just something as simple as like a
Jan Hoath:flat tire on the way to work or the really important meeting,
Jan Hoath:like, it doesn't matter how big the adversity is, I still
Jan Hoath:believe you're here to have joy anyway. And in fact, Joy is the
Jan Hoath:way through what you're dealing with.
Jennifer Takagi:We have a choice of how we respond, right,
Jennifer Takagi:right. Everything happens. I I have had the same conversation
Jennifer Takagi:multiple times. It's one of those philosophical ones where,
Jennifer Takagi:like we're not getting ones, like, we're not going to get to
Jennifer Takagi:the bottom of but like, how is it that one person two people
Jennifer Takagi:have similar events happen and and one person comes out, not
Jennifer Takagi:only okay, but better, and the other person stays in the muck
Jennifer Takagi:of it forever, and they never recover. Like, I'm just it never
Jennifer Takagi:ceases to amaze me, and it doesn't cease to amaze me when I
Jennifer Takagi:see it happen again. I'm like, wait, what? How did that happen?
Jennifer Takagi:Like, how did that person and I, I was watching a show recently,
Jennifer Takagi:and one of the main characters said, Well, I had to. I had no
Jennifer Takagi:choice, like I had to. And the other character looked at her
Jennifer Takagi:and said, but you did have a choice. And those are the kind
Jennifer Takagi:of choices you make every time, and everybody else has to live
Jennifer Takagi:with them. And it was like, Oh my gosh. Like, I Hey listener, I
Jennifer Takagi:am going to do, I'm going to get that exact quote from that
Jennifer Takagi:scene, and I'm going to actually do a podcast about that, because
Jennifer Takagi:that is a mindset, like, do you have to be there? Like, was this
Jennifer Takagi:kind of a crappy day? Yeah, I had my knee replaced. Has my
Jennifer Takagi:recovery been what it was a year ago on the other knee? No, not
Jennifer Takagi:at all. But every day was, like, today's going to be the day I
Jennifer Takagi:turn the corner. Today is going to be the answer I finally
Jennifer Takagi:turned the corner. You have no idea how excitable I am.
Jan Hoath:We celebrate that. I know.
Jennifer Takagi:But how much worse could it, or would it have
Jennifer Takagi:been if, if I had just been it's never going to get any better.
Jennifer Takagi:Like I walked into the doctor's office literally a week ago, and
Jennifer Takagi:I said, I'm I'm devastated, I'm disappointed, I'm disenchanted,
Jennifer Takagi:I'm disheartened, I'm all the D works because I can't walk. I
Jennifer Takagi:could walk, just not without assistance. And he was like, Oh,
Jennifer Takagi:well, let's get rid of that swelling. I was like, Yeah,
Jennifer Takagi:let's do that. But it was like, I wanted a solution. I'm not
Jennifer Takagi:gonna, I'm not gonna stand or or live with not a solution. I got
Jennifer Takagi:a solution. I'm much better. And yes, I am very hyped up on
Jennifer Takagi:steroids right now, and they've worked really well. But
Jan Hoath:the other D the drugs,
Jennifer Takagi:but like, up until I got the steroids. I
Jennifer Takagi:still like, and people would say, oh, gosh, you have such a
Jennifer Takagi:good attitude. And I didn't feel like I had a good attitude at
Jennifer Takagi:all, like I was not, because I was so unhappy about it. But at
Jennifer Takagi:the same time, I knew, like I knew that that there was going
Jennifer Takagi:to be something better, like I was, I was going to get there, I
Jennifer Takagi:was going to make it? Is there? Is there something? And I don't
Jennifer Takagi:know how I do that. Like, if somebody were to ask me or
Jennifer Takagi:sitting there thinking, Well, how did she do that? I don't
Jennifer Takagi:know, but, Jan, you probably do, like, what do we do? 100% I
Jan Hoath:can tell you for sure what you did and what others can
Jan Hoath:do there. There really is a tactic here. Yeah, that sounds
Jan Hoath:like kind of trite to say there's a tactic to your joy,
Jan Hoath:and yet there is, and what it is, and we're gonna, what a
Jan Hoath:perfect example. We're going to unpack it right now. Let's like
Jan Hoath:you were holding the vision. It's going to get better. It has
Jan Hoath:to. And that's what I would say, is the joy filled vision, and
Jan Hoath:that's part of, like, my backstory, my what we call
Jan Hoath:Turning Point story of when I really saw the transformative
Jan Hoath:power of joy was when I was a teenager, and I didn't have that
Jan Hoath:hope, and I didn't have that belief that there was a vision
Jan Hoath:of something better And that this will get through. And you
Jan Hoath:know, like your experience of one knee working out great, and
Jan Hoath:the other one not so great. But you also know, one week one
Jan Hoath:knee, you still got through right like, even though this
Jan Hoath:other knee is taking longer, you know what the vision of done and
Jan Hoath:good and joyful looks like. So step one is having that bigger
Jan Hoath:vision, which I know is really hard, and I'm just going to
Jan Hoath:speak to this in the moment, that is very hard sometimes when
Jan Hoath:you're in the middle of whatever you're facing. So sometimes it
Jan Hoath:it might feel a little out there, airy fairy, or like the
Jan Hoath:cancer scare with my son, like it seemed very out there that we
Jan Hoath:were going to hold the vision of the everything's fine, like
Jan Hoath:that. There's a miracle here, somehow, some way like and yet,
Jan Hoath:having the vision of something better in whatever capacity
Jan Hoath:possible, is step one. Step two is maintaining or honoring your
Jan Hoath:joy in the moment. This does not mean by the way, that you're
Jan Hoath:always happy, happy joy like no This means, look, you have the
Jan Hoath:emotional breakdown you have, the anger you have, the
Jan Hoath:frustration you have, the whatever human experiences. But
Jan Hoath:then on the flip side, you also have what I call Fruit Loop
Jan Hoath:moments, which you get to read about in the book. I'm not going
Jan Hoath:to give it away here more.
Jennifer Takagi:I love that part, by the way,
Jan Hoath:and it's joy in the moment. And that's what I
Jan Hoath:believe in is where joy can be found in the moment, even in our
Jan Hoath:darkest hour. And yet you look for the little joys, the little
Jan Hoath:things you can laugh about, the things that like, while you
Jan Hoath:can't walk around, you can watch a good show with a friend,
Jan Hoath:right? Like you can do little things that bring you joy, just
Jan Hoath:maybe not in the same way, and to let those come to you because
Jan Hoath:I do believe we are all joy in our essence. And I believe joy
Jan Hoath:is anywhere and everywhere we we just have to look for it
Jan Hoath:sometimes. And so that's also I want to acknowledge, that is a
Jan Hoath:muscle that is a muscle, and that is also where I'm a big fan
Jan Hoath:of the conversation and why I coach joy in my programs are
Jan Hoath:about building that joy muscle, so that you can train your brain
Jan Hoath:to look for it more, and yet you can already start today, like
Jan Hoath:even this listening to this podcast could be your joy for
Jan Hoath:the moment, just listening in and being inspired and giggle
Jan Hoath:with us and and everything else. So it's, it's looking for the
Jan Hoath:joy and really fostering the emotional, mental, spiritual
Jan Hoath:aspect of joy. And then the third step is taking those
Jan Hoath:actions like you needed to go to the doctor and say, Hang on,
Jan Hoath:this really isn't working. Yeah, I can keep a positive attitude,
Jan Hoath:but that's not getting this done. It's not exactly so it's
Jan Hoath:still taking the actions, like, just a little bit with the the
Jan Hoath:cancer scare with my son, like I had to get in my joy, and then I
Jan Hoath:had, we had to make tough decisions about what was
Jan Hoath:happening with him. And so wherever someone may be at
Jan Hoath:listening in, you know, might be like, Yeah, but yeah. But this
Jan Hoath:is, this is an invitation that joy. We gotta work on the
Jan Hoath:spiritual and then you're in a physical world. You're in a
Jan Hoath:physical body, you have to take action, so there's grounded
Jan Hoath:action coupled with keeping your spirits up. Because it really is
Jan Hoath:true. Joy is a level of enlightenment, or is a. Level of
Jan Hoath:consciousness, almost to enlightenment. That feels
Jan Hoath:enlightening, right? Like when it really feels good, like just
Jan Hoath:inviting everyone right now, like, think about the last time
Jan Hoath:you really felt joy, and what it felt like in your body, and what
Jan Hoath:it felt like even in sensing the space around you. Like there's a
Jan Hoath:spaciousness and there's a lightness, and there's there's a
Jan Hoath:magic to the experience of joy that I also want to distinguish
Jan Hoath:really quick here the difference between happiness and joy, that
Jan Hoath:happiness is an emotional, fleeting moment, and joy is a
Jan Hoath:state of being that, as I teach it and believe in it, it's also
Jan Hoath:about honoring the not joy too, and that's feeling the sadness
Jan Hoath:and the the frustration that you have been feeling with your knee
Jan Hoath:like ah, like we're not candy coating. That sucks, and how
Jan Hoath:frustrating that is. I know you were sharing like you had all
Jan Hoath:these hopes and dreams and intentions of things being able
Jan Hoath:to, you know, engage in you can't engage in them right now.
Jan Hoath:And it's like we're not going to step over that. However, that's
Jan Hoath:part of the beingness of joy, because it's also holding that
Jan Hoath:intentionality of feeling good again at some point, ideally,
Jan Hoath:you know, incrementally along the way, and that's where I
Jan Hoath:believe joy is. It's the path and the Ascend the end
Jan Hoath:destination. It's, it's the path and the fuel by the way to your
Jan Hoath:vehicle, which is also joy and then the end destination. So,
Jan Hoath:yes, you were going
Jennifer Takagi:to say, well, in I was at a point in my life I
Jennifer Takagi:didn't know it right? Because when you're in the midst of it,
Jennifer Takagi:it's kind of hard to see sometimes. And I was in a
Jennifer Takagi:situation, scenario where every day was just an immense amount
Jennifer Takagi:of trauma drama, like all day, every day, and like, I couldn't
Jennifer Takagi:see the forest from the for the trees, and I really didn't have
Jennifer Takagi:anybody or any I didn't really have any concept that it could
Jennifer Takagi:be different, because I didn't know what to do differently to
Jennifer Takagi:make it different. And there was a pivotal moment at work, and I
Jennifer Takagi:went to see a counselor, because it was like, I'm waking up in
Jennifer Takagi:the middle of night with panic attacks. I never know what my
Jennifer Takagi:day is going to be. I am not a panic attack person. I am not a
Jennifer Takagi:depressed person like that. I just, by the grace of God, I
Jennifer Takagi:Those are not my things. And I went to see this counselor, and
Jennifer Takagi:she said, you just need to learn how to act and react differently
Jennifer Takagi:to this situation. And I was like, Well, I don't know what
Jennifer Takagi:else to do. And she goes, Well, let me just give you some skills
Jennifer Takagi:and some you know, tactics. And so I just want to point out
Jennifer Takagi:right here, we we often think we have to do it in a vacuum. We
Jennifer Takagi:often think we have to do it on our own. We often hear those
Jennifer Takagi:stupid stories about, I pulled myself up by my bootstraps. No,
Jennifer Takagi:you didn't. Somebody handed you the damn straps so that you
Jennifer Takagi:could pull on. Like, there's, yes, there's always somebody in
Jennifer Takagi:our world actually came up last night, and I said, in my very
Jennifer Takagi:first book, address the stress, I literally talk about that. And
Jennifer Takagi:I was like, it's so funny that it's coming around now all these
Jennifer Takagi:years later, but we're a collective consciousness, right?
Jennifer Takagi:I need to find the study again. But there was a time when there
Jennifer Takagi:were astronauts on the space station or space they were in
Jennifer Takagi:outer space, at any rate, and the people at NASA would write
Jennifer Takagi:down a word, and everybody in the room would focus on that one
Jennifer Takagi:word at 12 o'clock noon, whatever time zone, and then
Jennifer Takagi:five minutes later, the astronauts would message back
Jennifer Takagi:what they thought the word was, and 98% of the time they got it
Jennifer Takagi:right. And it's because we're all so incredibly more connected
Jennifer Takagi:than we think or believe, and if we're more connected, then we
Jennifer Takagi:can ask for help, and somebody will help us. And like in my
Jennifer Takagi:journey, I'm very independent. I've been married 33 years. My
Jennifer Takagi:husband knows I'm very independent, so he he's good
Jennifer Takagi:with that. I'm good with that. It's all good. But at some point
Jennifer Takagi:in my recovery, it was not going well. He was not home, he was
Jennifer Takagi:out of town. And I got hold of one of my great nieces, who's
Jennifer Takagi:20, bless her heart. And I was like, I need ride to therapy. I
Jennifer Takagi:can't drive. And she took me, and it was okay. And the next
Jennifer Takagi:day, she came and got me and took me back to physical
Jennifer Takagi:therapy. And I looked at the I got in the car, and she was
Jennifer Takagi:like, how are you today? Aunt Jennifer, which I'm aunt
Jennifer Takagi:Jennifer, right? Like, I'm the happy one. I'm the let's get
Jennifer Takagi:this together. And I just start sobbing. And I was like, Addie,
Jennifer Takagi:I'm not good. Like, I'm just not good. And I get it together, and
Jennifer Takagi:we get to therapy, poor little thing, she didn't know what to
Jennifer Takagi:say or do I get into therapy. The therapist comes in and she's
Jennifer Takagi:like. Are you today? And I just start bawling. I was like,
Jennifer Takagi:Teresa, terrible. I should be able to walk. I should be over
Jennifer Takagi:this. This is just awful. Oh, my God. She said you need more pain
Jennifer Takagi:medicine. What? And she said, you're feeling this way because
Jennifer Takagi:you're in so much pain, and the pain has taken over you. So
Jennifer Takagi:let's get you on a regimen of your pain medicine so you can do
Jennifer Takagi:the therapy, and then you don't take the pain medicine, and then
Jennifer Takagi:you'll be really good and and I at my pain medicine, and I kid
Jennifer Takagi:you not, in 24 hours, I was a whole different person because I
Jennifer Takagi:wasn't in pain anymore. But I had to ask for help. I had to
Jennifer Takagi:ask for help from my niece. I had to ask help, right
Jennifer Takagi:therapist, I had to call the doctor's office and get a refill
Jennifer Takagi:on some medicine. So yes, like we're we're not, and I know
Jennifer Takagi:you're because I know you, you're not advocating for this.
Jennifer Takagi:But anybody listening who thinks, oh, I don't have the
Jennifer Takagi:wherewithal to do it, you don't, because it takes a village. It
Jennifer Takagi:takes a lot of people. We have a collective consciousness. We
Jennifer Takagi:have collective people. People work with joy every day because
Jennifer Takagi:they need or Jan in her joy programs, because she's the joy
Jennifer Takagi:Alchemist and can help get you there. So I just had to, like,
Jennifer Takagi:throw that in there, that, yeah, we're not doing it alone. And
Jennifer Takagi:anybody who tells you they did it all on their own, I'm going
Jennifer Takagi:to go toe to toe with them, that they're a big fat liar.
Jan Hoath:I love that you just, you just, and that's 100% every
Jan Hoath:one of my stories I share about basically the angel that was
Jan Hoath:there. And in sometimes Angel teachers come in sideways, that
Jan Hoath:there's someone who provides a loud contrast of not it. And yet
Jan Hoath:it was, I also believe, like you said, the collective
Jan Hoath:consciousness. But I believe there, you know, there's time,
Jan Hoath:divine timing too. It's like it had to be your niece, right?
Jan Hoath:Like such a vulnerable moment for you to be so present to
Jan Hoath:you're not the happy aunt, Jennifer, she knows. And then
Jan Hoath:even to be with her reaction of, like, ah, oh no, she's not very
Jan Hoath:happy Aunt, you know. And real, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean,
Jan Hoath:maybe she, she wasn't the direct solution, however, she was a
Jan Hoath:safe space, and for you to just follow through on the steps,
Jan Hoath:which is like, you know, we kind of gave this little three step
Jan Hoath:formula here today, and yet, you're right. No one does it
Jan Hoath:alone. And I, you know, read the book and look at other spaces
Jan Hoath:where you can get that upliftment, where there are
Jan Hoath:people that want to see you win. Because the truth is, at the end
Jan Hoath:of the day, and you're right, in the collective consciousness, we
Jan Hoath:all want to win. We all want to succeed. We all want to have our
Jan Hoath:divine Destiny Fulfilled, like we all want to have a good,
Jan Hoath:decent life. You know, some of us more abundant and lavish than
Jan Hoath:others, but it doesn't matter what the details are
Jan Hoath:fundamentally, we all desire the same things, joy, to belong, to
Jan Hoath:feel love and feel connection, and yeah, I can't do that alone.
Jan Hoath:Now, I am a big fan of like journaling and spending time in
Jan Hoath:nature alone. I'm a big trail runner and all these things. And
Jan Hoath:yet it's like we are human beings, part of a human body, an
Jan Hoath:energy, an entity, like, there, okay, there's an outliner or two
Jan Hoath:or outliers in the seven, you know, or 8 billion people that
Jan Hoath:we have on the planet now that are very happy to be hermits.
Jan Hoath:That was great, great, great, great, great exceptions. And
Jan Hoath:you're so right. No one does it alone, and that's where I'm so
Jan Hoath:grateful today, even to get to share about my book and speak to
Jan Hoath:our audience. And you know, we were just, we just talked about
Jan Hoath:this the other day, and you're like, come on the podcast. And
Jan Hoath:it's like, oh my gosh, yes. And thank you, thank you. Like we
Jan Hoath:are, I don't know I'm getting moved right now, just like
Jan Hoath:looking into your eyes on the Zoom like you know, we are each
Jan Hoath:other. We all do want to win. And no matter how diverse our
Jan Hoath:you know, beliefs are in whatever arena. At the core
Jan Hoath:we're human beings here to live a life, and we all fart and burp
Jan Hoath:and cuss once in a while, maybe and, you know, get angry, lose
Jan Hoath:their temper and cry and laugh, but we all care about living a
Jan Hoath:good life, and I really believe that that joy is is really meant
Jan Hoath:for everybody. And so yeah, like, we're wherever you can
Jan Hoath:find that now, but also find it in others. And it might just be,
Jan Hoath:you know, even out of this podcast, like. Picking up the
Jan Hoath:phone and calling someone and saying, Hey, I appreciate you.
Jan Hoath:You bring joy to my life. Just as a start, it
Jennifer Takagi:is, and this is simple things, and I don't know,
Jennifer Takagi:in our whole 30 whatever minutes together, I don't know that
Jennifer Takagi:you've ever said exactly what is the title of your book,
Jan Hoath:Joy. Anyway, transform adversity through
Jan Hoath:audacious joy.
Jennifer Takagi:Oh my gosh, by Jan, H, O, A, T, H, it's going
Jennifer Takagi:to be on Amazon. It is in Kindle ebook format originally, and I'm
Jennifer Takagi:sure it's going to expand from there, but that's going to be
Jennifer Takagi:the big launch on June 25 and why June 25 why? Why is joy
Jennifer Takagi:anyway, launching on June 25 well,
Jan Hoath:because it's international Joy day. Woo hoo.
Jan Hoath:We gotta bring more joy to the world in a big way. And that is
Jan Hoath:the day and and I just feel it in my heart and really, every
Jan Hoath:ounce of my being like that. Now is the time that this
Jan Hoath:conversation is really, really ready to be had.
Jennifer Takagi:I love this. So in the show notes are all the
Jennifer Takagi:ways to get hold of Jan. The book will be on Amazon. You can
Jennifer Takagi:go to your Kindle app. You can go to Amazon Joy anyway by Jan
Jennifer Takagi:Hoth, and then Jan, you do work with clients, one on one group
Jennifer Takagi:corporate settings. I know you do a lot of cool stuff, and they
Jennifer Takagi:can find all that on your website.
Jan Hoath:They can definitely get there and get started. Yes,
Jan Hoath:but yes, I have a wide variety of ways that I play and serve
Jan Hoath:and support my clients, to claim their joy and alchemize it.
Jan Hoath:Absolutely,
Jennifer Takagi:this has just been a delight. Oh no, it has
Jennifer Takagi:not. This has been a joy. Just been talking and and I'm so
Jennifer Takagi:excited for your journey and for the book, and wishing you all
Jennifer Takagi:the possible success that's going to come with it.
Jan Hoath:Oh, thank you, Jennifer. And thank you to all
Jan Hoath:of our wonderful listeners for tuning in. And I hope you go get
Jan Hoath:the book and let me know what you think. And I hope, yeah, I
Jan Hoath:know that you will find joy anyway. Already,
Jennifer Takagi:I love it. Thanks for being here. Thank
Jennifer Takagi:you. I'm Jennifer Takagi with destin for success, and I look
Jennifer Takagi:forward to connecting with you soon. You.
