How to get your kids out of school with Kristina and Herb Heagh | DFS 258

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Welcome to destined for success. I'm your host Jennifer Takagi

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and is PATA Palooza, de, I was so excited to get to interact

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with and meet new people from different areas that I may not

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have connected with otherwise. And in this episode, we get to

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meet Christina, and herb, and we're going to talk about how to

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get your children out of school. My mother just wanted to get me

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to school, so I can't wait to hear more. Welcome Christina and

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herb.

Kristina: 00:01:27

Thank you so very much. That was a lovely

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introduction. And we are so glad you asked us to be on your show.

Kristina: 00:01:33

Thank you so much. This is awesome. We are glad to be here.

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Yeah, thank you for inviting us. It's a pleasure to

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be here.

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Awesome. So why don't you tell me a little bit

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about yourself and how you got to this point of how to get your

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kids out of school that come about,

Kristina: 00:01:49

I would love to Well, I am a teacher and I was a

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teacher for 27 years 25 of those years I was in the classroom,

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where we are now telling you to get your kids out of that

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classroom right? After the 25 years, I was two years

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developing the K through two online program for our school

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district. So I was actually an online teacher for two years, it

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happened to coincide with COVID. But it wasn't because of COVID

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that I did that program. This was the school for our medically

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challenged our behavior kids or those kids who are in like

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sports, you need a super flexible schedule to bounce all

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over the country. After I did that, and after everything that

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happened in 2020, I found a silver lining. I was like you

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know what I can take this model, reach out to parents who want a

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different kind of education for their child, support them along

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the way and help make education better for a lot of our

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families. That's where I stepped away from them school district.

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And

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that's her in the box. story. Yeah, and my out of the

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box story is I'm a different kind of guy. I'm kind of weird.

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And I after college, I went to work in a cubicle farm. But I

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also got into entrepreneurship. I started building businesses, I

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saw kind of what was coming through our world what's

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happening right now a long time ago. And so I wanted to set up

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my business to be able to capitalize on what's about to

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happen, what's happening now, but also to build a school

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system because the kids were being left out. Our our elderly

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people are being left out and our military veterans are being

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left out. So I had this vision that came to me one morning, I

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woke up in my driveway sounds really weird. And I had this

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vision of the school system, where it's like, old people do

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better when they're with young people, veterans do better when

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they're under care. So you can bring them all together and do a

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school system. And in the process of that while I was

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building that, I had an accident and I hurt my head, have

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traumatic traumatic brain injury, I actually have quite a

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lot of brain damage. And it took a lot of my entrepreneur

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abilities away. And in the process of recovering, we

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actually came across and through what was happening now we God

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gave me back the school in a moment. He's like he because I

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felt he'd taken away and I got really angry with God. But then

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I was in somehow in a business meeting I wasn't supposed to be

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at. And I was told tell them about your school. I was like

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you took it away from me. And it's like I did, it's not yours

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anymore. It's going to belong to your parents now. So through in

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that meeting in that moment it came it went from being my

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school and this brick and mortar thing that I was doing to this

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education model where the parents get to raise their

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children the parents are in charge of the the things that

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they teach passing on their family heritage and their

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traditions. And so we came up with it. So with her

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vibrant Family Education where we help parents

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take control of their child's education and really make what's

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better for them and their families.

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She built, she built a PAP this school in the art, I should

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say that. But that's the experience to run the school.

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And I got connected to other forces that gave me the vision

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and help lay the foundation so that she could just really take

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it and run with it.

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I love that. And Herb, I want to say this

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whole idea of your vision, I recently have been told in

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various conversations, how we have that inter intuition, that

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vision that idea comes. And if we don't run with it, it'll move

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to somebody else. And I love the fact it didn't really move to

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somebody else. But it morphed into something even bigger and

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better than what the original vision was. But you may not have

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been able to hear the message. Had you not had the first

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vision, right? Like, you wouldn't have been open to it.

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It would been like, oh, that's stupid. But since you already

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had the first was like, Oh, wait, even better. But wait,

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there's

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more. There's more. Yeah, exactly.

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Kind of law of attraction is you start moving towards

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something, that thing starts moving towards you, as well. So

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yeah,

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and it all comes together the whole world

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of Whoo, how amazing,

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right? Like you the universe is happening to you, or

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it's happening for you. And once you get to that realization that

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it's happening for you, then then it really does start

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happening for you.

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Oh, my gosh, I so believe that. So with your

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vibrant family education, is that like a program is that a

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core a book or what? Tell me a little bit more about how that

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plays in and impacts families and lives. Vibrant

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family education is a coaching program at the

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beginning, but then the families can continue with us through the

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school year, if they choose to. So currently, we have a four

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week boot camp get started program, where parents who are

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really looking at their education role models and their

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ideas and deciding what they want to do for and with their

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children. Maybe their child is being bullied, maybe they're

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being left behind in the classroom, maybe the school that

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they're at really isn't a good fit, and they want something

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different. I walk the parents and the families through four

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weeks of planning routines, learning styles, all the

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different things that help them know for sure that it is going

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to be a good fit to bring their child's education home. And then

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after they decide, we get them all set up. And then as they

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want to, if they want to branch off on their own at that point

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and just run with it, that's cool. If they want to stay with

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me, we have a hybrid online homeschool kind of model. So the

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parents are doing what's considered homeschool in the

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state, but they have me and the online curriculum as a teacher,

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supporting them, teaching them helping them with the academics.

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And then along with that is coaching for the rest of the

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year. So the parents and the families are never alone.

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So the core we have in the online curriculum, we have the

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reading the writing the arithmetic, which are typically

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the things that scare the parents most to teach. So we can

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cover that. But there's also other modules that you can put

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into it. But with our coaching, it's like we coach about how to

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get your kids socially acclimated. So by taking them to

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music by taking them to sports by taking them to civic

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activities by taking them to museums, if you're an

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entrepreneur by taking them to your work with you or, or by

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taking them to your week long seminars and your other learning

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programs, so that your kids can see what you're doing. And so we

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we coached the family how to come back together and to use

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education as as a tool to build a family. So it's not just the

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school and we do your kids, it's like we can help with the

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schooling. But our main function is the coaching that brings all

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of it together.

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I love that. And the first time I ever heard

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of homeschooling, I will be dating myself. I think it was

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probably in 1996 97. And I met this woman and she was like,

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Yeah, my daughter wasn't doing well. And I met somebody who

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said I homeschool my children and she was like, Oh, I can't do

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that. And lo and behold I did. And at that point, her daughter

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was in college and doing great, like once she got out of high

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school. And it's become much more commonplace now. And I know

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of somebody else who pardon me. Brought her daughter home to

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homeschool. And she was an entrepreneur and had a business

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and I was trying to get ahold of her and I was like, Hey, can we

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talk about this because I'm thinking she's at home doing her

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entrepreneurial stuff, right? Like she should be, she should

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be completely accessible to me whenever I have a thought, no,

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no. She was like, Oh, I'm so sorry. We're at a volleyball

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tournament. And I was like, what? So like, there are whole

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sporting events, there are whole out all the other things around

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homeschooling where my vision and okay, there's probably one

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person listening to this, who believes it to my vision was mom

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sitting at home with you at the kitchen table, beating your head

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against the wall for you know, eight hours a day, because we

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were gonna make school like a workday, right? So I love that.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:43

It's like, I've evolved. And I know more than I did, then. But

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it's interesting that you're bringing the education and the

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family all together.

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The biggest regret we hear from people who are

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homeschooling is that they didn't do it sooner. You know,

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there might be problems, there might, you know, there might be

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stresses, especially if you don't have any help if you're

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trying to figure it out all on your own. But even if you do

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figure it out all in a row. And once you get it figured out,

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it's like it's life changing. And and thing that people say is

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like, I wish I'd done it sooner. I

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wish I'd done it sooner. So how like, what is

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the first step? In this process? It sounds kind of magical to me,

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but what's your first step? What do people need to have an idea

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about? Or do? Well, one of the

Kristina: 00:11:31

very first things you have to think about is your why?

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And you hear that from so many different coaches? What is your

Kristina: 00:11:36

why why do you want to bring your children home? Like I said,

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Is it because of that behavior issue? Is it because they're

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having learning difficulties? Is it because you know, they're

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being bullied at school,

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because all the BS, political propaganda that's

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being pushed down people's throats?

Kristina: 00:11:52

No pants on what your, your your issue is? Right there.

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Anyway, but you know, once you really latch on to that and

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know, then the next part is to really think about what will it

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take? And what does it look like? And that involves

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scheduling routines, knowing how flexible or inflexible knowing

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what kind of curriculum and programs are out there. And that

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has a lot to take in, which is one of the reasons why vibrant

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and family exists is to help walk parents through that

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because, you know, we've talked to parents is like, well, I

Kristina: 00:12:23

can't do that, because I can't figure it all out. Well, what if

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someone was there to support you and hold your hand and help you

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through it? Right? Would you then maybe make that step for

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your children to make it the best that it can be for you and

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your family? You

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know, one of the one of the biggest concerns or things

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that keeps parents from actually talking to us? Is them thinking,

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Well, I wasn't good in school, I'm not smart. I can't do it. So

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here, here's the thought, if you weren't good in school, and you

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don't think you're smart, then you know for sure that the

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school system let you down. Okay, and your children are a

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product of you. They don't fall far from the tree they talk kind

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of like you do they are kind of like you do not not completely

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you but you know, that's that's how they learn by focusing and

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watching. And so if you didn't do well in school, why do you

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think your children will now if you're, if you're just they

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might they have the possibility, but if you're assisting, you

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know, if you have a teacher that's helping you in school or

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helping you school, then you're more in control, you get to

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start directing the learning, and being there for your child.

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And so if they start getting left behind, you're actually

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more involved with the coaching with the life. And so you want

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your children won't be left behind, like you might have

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been,

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like it might have happened, like you hear all

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the time of people graduating, and they can't read it, you

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know, first or second grade level. I don't really know how

Jennifer Takagi: 00:13:57

that happens, because that was not the school and I had.

Kristina: 00:14:02

Fortunately, being a teacher, I know how that happens

Kristina: 00:14:04

now, and the newest statistic that just came out is that 65%

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of our fourth graders, so they're 910 Oh, ish year old,

Kristina: 00:14:13

right? Cannot read at a proficient reading level. So we

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have 65% of those kids who can't read, if you they can't read,

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they can't access they're learning. They can't learn learn

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more because they can't get the information from the books and

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things right. So yeah, it's an epidemic and some ways and the

Kristina: 00:14:34

reason why is unfortunately our system is broken. There are

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teachers who are absolutely awesome teacher I am not bashing

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bashing teachers at all. I was a teacher, right and I love my

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teaching friends. But we're in a system now and not all schools

Kristina: 00:14:48

are the same, right? Not every school is horrible. You know,

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that kind of stuff. But think about and look at your school

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where you are. And we are required to be on page two of

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chapter three. In Week 10, of the school system, and that just

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keeps moving on, our children aren't required to learn to

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mastery before they move on. So then they have a hole. And

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that's how come a lot of our kids are where they are, right?

Kristina: 00:15:14

They're not quite getting where they need to be. So if

Herb: 00:15:17

they missed that week of reading, if they miss that

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foundational part of math, then it just keeps getting farther

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and farther behind, it keeps getting harder and harder. And

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these kids aren't taught how to catch up, they're giving the

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resources to get caught up. So once they fall too far behind,

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then they're just left behind, and they're pushed through the

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system through the school. And that's how we get eighth

Herb: 00:15:41

graders, fourth graders who can't read at a kindergarten

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level, because they fell behind so early that they were just

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pushed through and never given the opportunity. And that's what

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we're trying to correct. Our school is so individualized. And

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because the parents are involved in so much, and it's like,

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they're there, they understand, they get to watch. And they also

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get to learn. So if they miss the reading, as they're teaching

Herb: 00:16:07

their children, they get to pick up these little things that they

Herb: 00:16:10

might have missed and help start improving their life as well.

Herb: 00:16:13

Not necessarily intentionally, but again, as a little

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byproduct.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:17

Well, I was very fortunate because I was in

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good schools. And I caught on and I did the things. But I can

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completely relate to my senior year of high school. And I don't

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really know how this happened. I just signed up for the next

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class, the next class. And next class, I didn't even know there

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were like, Oh, you only have to have one math credit or two,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:38

whatever. So I'm a senior, and I'm in trig algebra three. Math

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was never my forte ever. As a matter of fact, I got a college

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degree with honors without a math class, because I made that

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:51

happen. Right? That I, it was so hard that that was so hard for

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:57

me. I would go in every morning, and I stayed every afternoon to

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:01

get help from the teacher because it was just so over my

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:04

head. And we'd have a test. And I always passed the test, but I

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never made an A. And I'm confident the reason was, I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:15

barely got hold of it and took the test. And we moved to the

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next thing. So like from that aspect, I can totally see how

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that would happen. And the good thing was like, I literally

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never took another math class, like once I got out of that.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:32

Iran,

Kristina: 00:17:34

you were fortunate because you took enough higher

Kristina: 00:17:36

math in high school that the college didn't require you

Kristina: 00:17:39

basically test it out, or your transcript tested you out of

Kristina: 00:17:41

your math courses.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:43

Oh, no, I have a degree in French and Spanish

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:45

with a minor in English. Math was not a requirement. I have

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:51

those languages down. It was the math part. That was hard. But I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:55

figured if you go all the way through trig algebra, three,

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unless you're going into a profession that uses math all

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:02

the time, you don't really need any more than like that. That's

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:05

like an overachiever. Totally. Exactly. Well, I love this. So

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:10

how can people get ahold of you? Like, how can they learn more?

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:13

And find out? Oh, my God, my sister does walked in and scared

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:19

me to death. Oh, my gosh, come say hello, these are these are

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:24

educators dropped down, they can't see you. There you go.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:29

Here's my principal. We're finishing up. That's gonna be so

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:36

fun on the podcast, right? How is it that people will get ahold

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:42

of you? And be able to learn more and find out about and now

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:47

I just lost my train of thought at the vibrant family education.

Kristina: 00:18:51

Awesome. Thank you for asking. Yes, you can find us at

Kristina: 00:18:54

www dot vibrant family education.com. And that is our

Kristina: 00:18:59

website. And there at the bottom of that you can click on a

Kristina: 00:19:02

parent teacher conference. And I promise when you come to this

Kristina: 00:19:05

parent teacher conference that it will not be the mean teacher

Kristina: 00:19:07

sitting there telling you that your child is being bratty or

Kristina: 00:19:11

missing out on all the school it will be this kind teacher who

Kristina: 00:19:14

says I want to help you give me some idea of your education was

Kristina: 00:19:19

What's it What are you kind of struggling with? And how can I

Kristina: 00:19:23

help you? Yeah, we

Herb: 00:19:23

can help figure out where your children are at and where

Herb: 00:19:25

they need to go and how they get caught up. And, and we can help

Herb: 00:19:29

you with all aspects of that. And the

Kristina: 00:19:31

other thing is follow me on Facebook. Christina. Hey,

Kristina: 00:19:34

right. I am a real person. I will answer the DMS and all of

Kristina: 00:19:38

my links are in my bio there as well.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:19:40

And you have a podcast bringing education home.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:19:43

Yes, we do. on all the platforms,

Kristina: 00:19:47

yes. On all of the platforms.

Herb: 00:19:50

It's all about education. And we talk to lots of experts

Herb: 00:19:54

to help build in a wide variety so so communication experts with

Herb: 00:19:58

teenagers with tweens Um, clutter experts, scheduling

Herb: 00:20:02

experts, psychology experts. So whatever, whatever we think

Herb: 00:20:06

might help our nutrition, whatever helps our families

Herb: 00:20:10

bring the family together, strengthen the family, what's

Herb: 00:20:12

best for the children, we bring all of those in. Because as they

Herb: 00:20:16

get a love of learning, I'm just getting that right. Right better

Herb: 00:20:20

I usually say learning of love, a love of learning, then then

Herb: 00:20:25

these aspects of health and self development are always like

Herb: 00:20:29

choice high value, things that even kids like to learn how can

Herb: 00:20:33

I be a better person? So, so then enter into it. And

Herb: 00:20:38

sometimes they don't even necessarily need to go to

Herb: 00:20:40

college because they've grown so much, that they're doing what

Herb: 00:20:43

they love, before they need to even make those kinds of

Herb: 00:20:47

decisions. So they're living their life. They're becoming

Herb: 00:20:49

their person, just through the process of edge of education of

Herb: 00:20:54

learning to love education.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:57

Oh, my gosh, I love it. It has been a pleasure

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:00

getting to know you. And I look forward to connecting with you

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:05

soon.

Kristina: 00:21:06

Thank you so much for having us.

Herb: 00:21:07

It's been a pleasure. It's been a lot of fun. So thank you

Herb: 00:21:10

so very much.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:11

Thank you. I'm Jennifer Takagi and I look

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:14

forward to connect you with you soon. Thank you for taking your

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