Glenda Chen Shares the New Rules of Success: Align, Don’t Hustle | DFS 345

Jennifer Takagi: 00:00:03

Okay, it didn't say recording in progress, but I

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guess that means it's recording. Yep. Welcome to destined for

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success. I'm your host, Jennifer Takagi, and I'm very happy today

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to have a new friend, Glenda chin with us today, and her

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topic is the new rules of success align. Don't hustle. And

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I probably need to know this. I need this conversation. Glenda,

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thank you for being here with me today.

Glenda Chen: 00:00:30

Thank you, Jennifer for having me. I'm so true to be

Glenda Chen: 00:00:33

here.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:00:34

So how did you, how did you land on this, like

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these kinds of things, these kind of really deep subject,

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topic, lines, title lines, they don't just happen. They happen

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over time. So give me a little bit of your background and your

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story and how you landed on this. I

Glenda Chen: 00:00:52

know is it's so interesting because my

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background, I have always been in the financial industry. So as

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a ex private banker, we heard so much about hustling, right? And

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many people say that you have to hustle to be successful. So for

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the longest time, I really hustle, because people around me

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hustle. And the thing is, if you go to the dictionary, the term

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hustle is getting busy hurried. And the thing is, for the

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longest time, majority of us are in a hurry. We get ourselves

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busy being busy, yes, it will serve us for a period of time,

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but it doesn't serve me, ultimately. Why? Because at the

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highest peak of my career, I suffered depression, and I

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thought that, hey, you know, I have the income, I have the

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accolade, I have everything that most people want, and yet I'm

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not getting that fulfillment. What's going on, and I feel that

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I'm chasing something. So I thought, Okay, it's alright. I

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just have to get myself focused, back to the job, get myself busy

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again so I will not such feeling will not come. Right? How many

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of us just continue to go back to the same way, thinking that,

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okay, I just have to work harder. I just need to have the

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success that I need, the results that I want, and that will, you

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know, get rid of all this thoughts. But then it doesn't

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happen, until one day when I was on a business trip in London, I

Glenda Chen: 00:02:38

was hit by the bus. Hit

Jennifer Takagi: 00:02:40

by a bus in London. Were you looking the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:02:42

wrong way?

Glenda Chen: 00:02:44

Yes, you are right. And the thing is, I was on the

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phone on I was on a business phone. My mind. Everything was

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just crowded with the to do list, what I should do, what I

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should do, what I need to do, and I was hit by a bus. And at

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that moment, I was thinking, what am I thinking? And the

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thing is, I was, I was I was really glad that I escaped,

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really unheard.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:03:18

Oh, I mean, because those blessings go

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quickly. You didn't get hurt,

Glenda Chen: 00:03:22

okay? I would say that because the timing,

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everything the bus kind of like was at a speed that I was able

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to react it. So I was just hearing screams, and there was a

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moment of, you know, blank. I went blank for for a moment. By

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the time I regain my conscience, I was being thrown back on to a

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pathway. Wow, yeah. And I was, I was really shocked, because I

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was just regaining that shock, right? So I went back to the

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hotel that that day, alone in the hotel, like, right now I'm

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actually on the business trip. I look out of the window and I saw

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the London Eye for a moment. I asked my I asked, God, what is

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my purpose? Because prior to that, I was really suffering

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from, like a depression, clinically depressed. Yes, there

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are moments that I wish that I could just not wake up because

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it was still tired right, tired of hustling right, and it

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drained me, emotionally, mentally, physically. Then I

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think I mean, how many of us ask God for something and we. Hope

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that God gave us an answer, but I don't have the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:05:03

answer. It doesn't always come across

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clearly, does it? Sometimes it's a fuzzy

Glenda Chen: 00:05:09

Exactly. So I know that something needs to change.

Glenda Chen: 00:05:15

And the thing is, I, I am someone that is very health

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conscious. I do mind, you know, exercise my routine. I mean, we

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have heard that, you know, change your physiology and

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change your mentally, right? And the thing is, it doesn't really

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work for me

Jennifer Takagi: 00:05:35

well. And I want to say to that point, I

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towards the end of my career, I was suffering a lot of that too.

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And sometimes the situation you're in is so much that you

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you can't like, you can't trick yourself out of it or positive,

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talk yourself out of it. You have to, like, physically get

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out of it. So when I had the opportunity to leave my

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extremely hostile work environment, I like, ran out the

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door like, as quickly as I could. So yes, I get that. And

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you I remember other people telling me stories like this,

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and I think you just need a little better mindset. But you

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are. I'm sorry to anybody ever said that to you. I'm really

Jennifer Takagi: 00:06:22

sorry, because when you're in it, it's terrible.

Glenda Chen: 00:06:26

You are right, because you see, in our

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environment, we have to be collected, right? And especially

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we are in a financial industry, because you have to show up that

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you are in authority. You know what you are doing. You are able

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to face and handle that stress. And the thing is, nobody talk

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about it. And I can't show that vulnerability out. I can't turn

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to any because the thing is, okay, of course, we heard in a

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financial industry, there is this word called dot eight, dot

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word. So the thing is, you have to be strong. And my husband

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said that, hey, you know, you have to praise yourself. You

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have to be strong to fight for another day. Oh, come on. So

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anyway, long story short, I Yes, nobody talk about this mindset

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thing, and I know that I need to do something about it so I

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consciously would draw myself out, not not resign, but I still

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do what I'm doing, what I was doing, and I went into personal

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development because I Want to know what's going on in this

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space. I Yes, we so much about YouTube, I read books, and the

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thing is that I'm still not getting the results that I want.

Glenda Chen: 00:07:52

I'm still not getting out of it, so I know that something needs

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to change, and I can't do this alone. Yeah, yes, personal

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development is a personal journey, but you can't do it

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this alone. So I started this whole thing and started to dive

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myself in. And then I realized that there's so much in this

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corporate world that we are just so focused in strategy, in the

Glenda Chen: 00:08:20

to do is actually what's going on in the mind? Yes, yeah.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:08:29

And I've been, I've been out of the federal or

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corporate workforce for a while now, but I just wonder how much

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it has changed, or very slowly it It seemed to me, in my

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experience, that making that shift from everything being

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strategy and a to do list and being counting was still the

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norm like that was the main thing. One of the funniest

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conversations I ever had that was really sad, not funny. One

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of my several layer up bosses came in and said she called, and

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:07

she would call and she'd say, Jennifer, I need you to go to a

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:10

conference room and call me back, and she'd hang up. And I

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had a three sided cubicle. I was a supervisor, but I had zero

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privacy, and so if any private conversation had to be held. I

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had to go to a conference room, so I got up and I went in the

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conference room, and I called her back and she said, I just

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:28

got back from a meeting, and they're going to put on my

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:30

performance review. I have to make people happy, and I'm going

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to be graded on my employees being happy. How do I make

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people happy? And the first thing that came to mind that I

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did not say and I deserve a lot of gold stars for not saying

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:44

this. The first thing I wanted to say was, when you call and

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:49

tell me to go to a conference room and call me back, or call

Jennifer Takagi: 00:09:52

you back, you could tell me what the topic was, because in that

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that short period of time from my desk. To a conference room to

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dial in the number, I was completely overridden with guilt

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and stress. What didn't I do? What report was late? What was

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:11

wrong? When she could have just said, I need to discuss a change

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:16

in our performance evaluations, or I need to ask you about your

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:19

travel numbers like, right? She could have given me a clue, but

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:24

that was what I wanted to say, is you could make me really

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:26

happy if you told me the topic before I went in there. But it's

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just people are paid well for their job they're doing, and

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:36

they should be grateful. That was like the the atmosphere I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:42

was in, so, yeah, has it changed? Are you changing it?

Jennifer Takagi: 00:10:45

What's happening?

Glenda Chen: 00:10:47

Yeah, in fact, you know, Gallup survey had just

Glenda Chen: 00:10:55

published their latest number, 62% of the global employee are

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considered as disengaged with their job, 62% and 15% are

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actively disengaged. So what does this translate to this

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translated to many people are emotionally not fulfilled, and

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they are in that cycle of anger, sadness, fear, hurt, shame, and

Glenda Chen: 00:11:27

this is a constant cycle. Because why we are all

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connected, right? Just like Jennifer, your conversation with

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your colleagues, that's colleague. Because when we do

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not have something that we want to give we are, I mean, we can't

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fulfill ourselves, we can't fulfill others. And this cycle

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goes on and on, and that's why you we have heard so much of

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silent quitter. Where does this term silo quitter comes from

Glenda Chen: 00:12:02

because of all this end of the day, because majority of us, we

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do not have the awareness of our self, our emotion, and that's

Glenda Chen: 00:12:15

why, through my own experience, my my observation in a corporate

Glenda Chen: 00:12:22

for 20 over years. I mean, right now I'm still in corporate. I

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realized that three things, alignment, elevation,

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prosperity, alignment is we have to be aligned with ourself. Who

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we are, where, where are we right now, and where are we

Glenda Chen: 00:12:46

going? So many of I mean, if I were to ask, I did that

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experiment, I asked a few people in the corporate and even my

Glenda Chen: 00:12:57

business partner, what is your goal? They look at me very

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blankly, like as if that I'm speaking I'm not speaking

Glenda Chen: 00:13:04

English, or there's something alien, you see, what do you

Glenda Chen: 00:13:08

mean? Yeah, my goal is, okay, my target, my I want to bring up my

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kids, that kind of thing. But that is not the goal. Goal,

Glenda Chen: 00:13:18

right? Don't even know themselves. But of course, I

Glenda Chen: 00:13:24

mean, I'm not excluded. I was on the journey. But it's true that

Glenda Chen: 00:13:30

discovering, and that's why i i was so called suffering, that,

Glenda Chen: 00:13:36

yes, monetary I have it, but yet I'm not fulfilled. Jesus, I

Glenda Chen: 00:13:42

still feel empty because climbing that corporate ladder,

Glenda Chen: 00:13:47

my ladder was on the wrong wall.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:13:49

Oh, I love that. Yeah, yes,

Glenda Chen: 00:13:53

we all say that we climbed the corporate ladder.

Glenda Chen: 00:13:55

But I, I was not. I wasn't aware that this ladder was actually

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against the wrong wall. And by knowing, by me being aligned, I

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can elevate my thinking, my feeling and my action. And of

Glenda Chen: 00:14:17

course, thinking, feeling action comes to attitude, right? And

Glenda Chen: 00:14:24

coming back to my background in the financial industry, we have

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a lot of people, you know, job hopping, silent, quitting

Glenda Chen: 00:14:34

because they don't have the right attitude.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:14:41

Then a lot in mind, also, people didn't

Jennifer Takagi: 00:14:44

understand how they fit into the greater scheme of things, like,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:14:50

why does this particular task matter? Yeah, and a lot of

Jennifer Takagi: 00:14:55

times, leadership doesn't bother to say where it fits into the

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bigger picture. Or because if people understood when I do this

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and I do it properly, it impacts the following processes,

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procedures and outcomes in this other way. So yeah, that all

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falls on leadership, on letting them know where they fit in, how

Jennifer Takagi: 00:15:18

they fit in, and how they're making a difference in the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:15:21

world.

Glenda Chen: 00:15:22

Absolutely yes. Jennifer, you pointed out

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correctly, because, end of the day, that leader do not have

Glenda Chen: 00:15:32

that leadership skill, not because he or she is no good,

Glenda Chen: 00:15:37

but it's just back to that awareness game. Yep.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:15:41

Well, awareness and having that corporate

Jennifer Takagi: 00:15:45

culture in this organization, we are going to be aware

Glenda Chen: 00:15:50

exactly, yeah, and, and the thing is, for you, you

Glenda Chen: 00:15:54

mentioned about corporate culture. Corporate culture is,

Glenda Chen: 00:15:58

is made up of as human, yes. And the thing is, you think about

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it, where does this corporate culture comes from? It is

Glenda Chen: 00:16:08

actually being detained or moaned or set by this leader on

Glenda Chen: 00:16:14

top. And once this leader have that kind of the awareness,

Glenda Chen: 00:16:20

then, yes, it can just funnel down to the rest of the stuff

Glenda Chen: 00:16:27

well.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:28

And we had several situations where,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:33

unfortunately, there were several leaders in my chain over

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:36

the years who truly, they were really big on making sure

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:41

everybody else followed the rules, but they did not believe

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:43

the rules applied to them. And what they failed to recognize is

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:50

that all the people below them that they were stomping on every

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:53

day were watching every move they made, and in the end, I saw

Jennifer Takagi: 00:16:59

several topple with being terminated, to went to prison,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:05

because you're being watched. So when you step into that

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:08

leadership role, whether it's by title or just by your behavior,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:12

right? Because a lot of us are leaders without having the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:15

title, people are watching you, and you have to, you have to act

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:19

with integrity. So yeah, and that's, that's that culture, how

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:22

are you going to walk in in the morning, how are you going to

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:25

show up? And you have a choice every day on how you want to

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:28

show up. So important.

Glenda Chen: 00:17:30

Yes, it is so important. And the thing is, how

Glenda Chen: 00:17:34

we show up basically how you do one thing is how you do

Glenda Chen: 00:17:37

everything. Yes, absolutely. I love this.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:42

I've heard that before. So once we had

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:45

alignment, and that was one thing I I did work with a

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:47

gentleman who he was not in alignment with the services that

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we provided. And I often thought, wow, how hard it must

Jennifer Takagi: 00:17:57

be for you to come into work every day when you fundamentally

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:04

disagree with what with what we're doing, that when we have

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:07

that alignment, I love how you said that, like, if you're

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:10

aligned with yourself and who you are and what you're doing,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:13

then you have the ability to elevate and elevate yourself in

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:16

so many ways. And you said several things with elevation,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:19

and I didn't get them all down. And, you know, I don't know if

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:23

you're like me, you may not be able to repeat it, but then

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:26

again, you might be way better and you can. So once we elevate

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:30

what are we elevating?

Glenda Chen: 00:18:33

Okay, when we elevate ourself, basically we

Glenda Chen: 00:18:37

elevate the way we think, right? Because all the results in our

Glenda Chen: 00:18:44

life first comes back to how we think. So that is where I

Glenda Chen: 00:18:52

realized that, Oh, I thought thinking, Yes, I'm thinking, but

Glenda Chen: 00:18:55

it's actually, how do we think? They start from my internal self

Glenda Chen: 00:19:02

talk. It's so interesting that I am with me. 24/7, there's no way

Glenda Chen: 00:19:12

for me to shake off Glenda and and the thing is, before that, I

Glenda Chen: 00:19:18

wasn't aware. I mean, I was aware of the conversation that I

Glenda Chen: 00:19:23

have, and they are all the judgment, the self judgment,

Glenda Chen: 00:19:27

because yes, over majority of us, I'm sure, Jennifer, at some

Glenda Chen: 00:19:34

point, you are a perfectionist. But I mean that in some way I am

Glenda Chen: 00:19:41

a perfectionist because I need to look the way. I need to look

Glenda Chen: 00:19:47

perfect. I need to speak perfectly, so that the receiving

Glenda Chen: 00:19:53

end of whoever will see me positively, right? And it start

Glenda Chen: 00:19:59

from I. My inner self talk. So for the longest time I have that

Glenda Chen: 00:20:04

negative thought and negative, I don't talk down myself. So

Glenda Chen: 00:20:11

that's a lot of judgment being a professionalist, Yep, yeah. So

Glenda Chen: 00:20:17

when we have that awareness, I'm able to elevate myself for my

Glenda Chen: 00:20:21

thinking so I can it's not so much of not thinking negatively,

Glenda Chen: 00:20:28

but it's more of how I encourage myself to have a positive

Glenda Chen: 00:20:32

thinking, positive thoughts in myself. Once I have that, I will

Glenda Chen: 00:20:37

elevate my emotion. We talk about EQ, right thinking would

Glenda Chen: 00:20:43

evoke that emotion. Once I have that good emotion, I know with

Glenda Chen: 00:20:49

the elevated thinking, elevated emotion, I can take that

Glenda Chen: 00:20:53

elevated action. I love that. Yeah, so I know that I will be

Glenda Chen: 00:21:03

able to take that action, that right action, and that action

Glenda Chen: 00:21:06

will always come up with that results that I want. It might

Glenda Chen: 00:21:12

not be now immediate, however, these are compounding. It will.

Glenda Chen: 00:21:16

It will compound over the years, and I do believe right now, with

Glenda Chen: 00:21:23

what I'm studying, I know that, without a shadow of doubt, that

Glenda Chen: 00:21:28

we work with the universal law, the law of universe, the energy

Glenda Chen: 00:21:33

that we put out, is going to come back to us in some shape or

Glenda Chen: 00:21:36

form.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:38

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And that's that

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:42

prosperity piece. Right we do the right things. Things fall

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:45

into place, and I had this conversation earlier today. And

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:54

if we're looking for evidence to support whatever we believe,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:57

we're going to find it. So if we if, if things don't work out

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:03

right, or how you wanted the first go round, then you're

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:07

going to find ways to make it not work the next time and the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:11

next time and the next time, right? So whatever, whatever you

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:14

focus on, grows, whatever you focus on prospers, you're going

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:17

to get more of. So just because it didn't work out one time,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:21

doesn't mean it's not going to work out the next time. Create a

Jennifer Takagi: 00:22:25

new reality.

Glenda Chen: 00:22:27

Yes, I like this create. In fact, you mentioned

Glenda Chen: 00:22:30

about creating a word. So I have this book, Power of Awareness,

Glenda Chen: 00:22:33

which you might you might heard about. This is my navigator, so

Glenda Chen: 00:22:38

I am still in mentorship with my mentor, and we study this. I

Glenda Chen: 00:22:46

mean, again, coming back in the past, I watch YouTube, listen to

Glenda Chen: 00:22:52

podcast, read the self help book. And the thing is, why

Glenda Chen: 00:22:56

isn't it? Nothing sticks. There's no integration. So being

Glenda Chen: 00:23:01

a leader all of us, we are all leader. We also need to have

Glenda Chen: 00:23:05

another leader to lead us as well, so that we are able to

Glenda Chen: 00:23:08

lead others, it should change event. So why? Why I? I'm bring

Glenda Chen: 00:23:13

this book up because you mentioned about this. This. You

Glenda Chen: 00:23:20

know, the power of thinking. I and we, in order to be

Glenda Chen: 00:23:26

prosperous, we right now, have to think from the wish

Glenda Chen: 00:23:32

fulfilled.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:23:36

Yes, think from the wish fulfilled. Yes, and

Glenda Chen: 00:23:40

this is also something that I am embracing

Glenda Chen: 00:23:43

I'm still practicing, because we are also triggered by our

Glenda Chen: 00:23:49

sensory see here, small taste, touch, it is not easy for us to

Glenda Chen: 00:23:55

live in that wish fulfill when the evidence around us is not

Glenda Chen: 00:24:01

what we want. Yeah, so is is true, constant studying, getting

Glenda Chen: 00:24:17

ourselves in that environment that we can be living in our our

Glenda Chen: 00:24:25

higher self, higher being.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:29

And it's a it's a practice, right? And I, I find

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:32

that people that are not in this personal development, personal

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:36

growth area, sometimes can seem judgmental. It's like, well,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:42

you're supposed to be better than that. Well, I'm, I'm trying

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:46

to get better than that. I'm not there, but I'm focused on

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:49

getting better than that. But then I think, but now you're

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:53

aware too, so you're growing also. Oh my gosh, I love this.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:24:59

So. Do You? You? You have your corporate career in the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:25:03

financial world, part of me getting over this mess. That's

Jennifer Takagi: 00:25:08

you, um, hang on.

Glenda Chen: 00:25:47

So in the corporate world itself, yes, a lot,

Glenda Chen: 00:25:51

majority of, majority of the people, they still can't grab

Glenda Chen: 00:25:56

the idea of personal development because Troy be told, we are so

Glenda Chen: 00:26:04

willingly to spend on clothing, on bags, right? Branded stuff,

Glenda Chen: 00:26:10

like in Asia, there's a lot of bling Bing going on. And how

Glenda Chen: 00:26:15

many of us do want to invest in ourself? When I say investing in

Glenda Chen: 00:26:21

ourself is not just the clothing, it's really what's

Glenda Chen: 00:26:23

inside and and in fact, something that I really take

Glenda Chen: 00:26:28

this as a mission, to want to kind of create the awareness and

Glenda Chen: 00:26:34

have a shift of their paradigm, their mindset, their thinking,

Glenda Chen: 00:26:38

is you have to be generous and willing to invest in yourself in

Glenda Chen: 00:26:45

a sense that this small, tiny thing that is in between our

Glenda Chen: 00:26:49

ears, which is our mind, because our mind is the most magical

Glenda Chen: 00:26:55

thing that God gave us, because we have all this greatness

Glenda Chen: 00:27:03

genius in us, and without uncovering them, we do not know

Glenda Chen: 00:27:11

what we could do. We don't know what we don't know. So I have

Glenda Chen: 00:27:18

also slowly trying to influence positively my my colleagues, my

Glenda Chen: 00:27:27

staff, that, hey, you have to be willing to invest in yourself.

Glenda Chen: 00:27:34

Yeah, and because, by investing ourselves, we, first of all, we

Glenda Chen: 00:27:42

improve our own life. We improve ourselves. It's only when we

Glenda Chen: 00:27:47

improve ourself then we have the ability to influence improve the

Glenda Chen: 00:27:54

life of our loved one, our family, our business, because as

Glenda Chen: 00:28:03

like, the job that I'm doing, I have, I've worked very closely

Glenda Chen: 00:28:07

with the most successful entrepreneur, because I'm in a

Glenda Chen: 00:28:12

high net worth space. They are very successful. Entrepreneur,

Glenda Chen: 00:28:16

multi billion entrepreneur. However, when you look at that

Glenda Chen: 00:28:21

life, yes, externally, they look so successful. However, true be

Glenda Chen: 00:28:27

told, they might not have a good health, they might not have that

Glenda Chen: 00:28:32

relationship that they want. They have judgment in themselves

Glenda Chen: 00:28:39

as well. And it's interesting, and I feel humble that sometimes

Glenda Chen: 00:28:44

I'm able to get into that deep conversation with these clients.

Glenda Chen: 00:28:49

So that's why I hear that in order for us to be really

Glenda Chen: 00:28:54

successful all round, we have to look at our relationship,

Glenda Chen: 00:28:59

relationship with ourself first than with others, because in my

Glenda Chen: 00:29:04

journey, it's also such a I realize that when I don't have a

Glenda Chen: 00:29:06

relationship with myself, I do not have a good relationship

Glenda Chen: 00:29:11

with others. Well,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:13

that's it's like, I'm in I'm a follower of

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:16

Brendan Burchard, and one of the things he says is, people ask

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:20

me, So what do you do? And I say, I'm in a personal

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:22

development. And they'll say, Well, why? And he'll say, Well,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:25

my question is, why aren't you like we should all be into

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:28

personal development, and I've had people around me because I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:31

have invested a lot in myself, and as I invest in myself, of

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:35

course, then it comes out in my business, right? I show up

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:38

differently. I show up better. And in the last probably year,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:43

year and a half, I've had several very close girlfriends

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:46

of mine who are not into personal development, who don't

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:50

really understand what I do, probably really push back,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:29:55

actually, if you got them, really one, obviously the other.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:00

Are a little more subterfuge. They're totally not into the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:04

energy healing and energy work that I do. And at various points

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:09

they've literally asked the questions, well, so at what

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:12

point are you done? Like, at what point are you going to get

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:15

all the return on your investment? Because it's all a

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:19

financial ROI, right, having been in the financial space,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:22

which I think it's very interesting, I was in housing

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:24

for 30 years, so yeah, a lot of similarities there. And when I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:29

was there, I was literally, I would go and pay to go to

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:33

personal development and leadership conferences and

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:36

training that my organizations wouldn't pay for. And I was

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:40

like, just give me the time off. Let me go like, I want to do

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:43

this. I want to learn. I want to do more. So, super fun. So how

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:47

do you work? Do you work with clients, one on one at all now

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:50

or in a group, but tell me a little bit about your business

Jennifer Takagi: 00:30:53

model outside of your stellar corporate career.

Glenda Chen: 00:30:57

Yeah. So my greatest passion right now is,

Glenda Chen: 00:31:01

yes, I work with clients, is mainly in groups, and I actually

Glenda Chen: 00:31:07

work very closely also with my mentor. So it's is, it's a it's

Glenda Chen: 00:31:13

a process that it doesn't come up from me, because I feel that

Glenda Chen: 00:31:18

I want to be, I want to stay integrity. I want to have, like

Glenda Chen: 00:31:22

a system that's that already work. So we follow very closely

Glenda Chen: 00:31:28

about the work of Bob Proctor, yes. And of course, we kind of

Glenda Chen: 00:31:34

like expanded so I work very closely with my mentor, Kim

Glenda Chen: 00:31:37

COVID, where we take on that that material, and I will do the

Glenda Chen: 00:31:44

facilitation at the same time. I also, because I'm both certified

Glenda Chen: 00:31:49

in root cause coaching, Reiki, NRP. So to further enhance my

Glenda Chen: 00:31:57

clients results, I do some emotional releasing with them,

Glenda Chen: 00:32:03

yeah, because we need to release some of our emotion from the

Glenda Chen: 00:32:07

subconscious mind, right? Yeah, in order to take on more things.

Glenda Chen: 00:32:13

Because all these emotion, they would cross contextualize and

Glenda Chen: 00:32:17

show up in different areas in our life without getting through

Glenda Chen: 00:32:22

that root cause, we'll always have that showing up. Yeah,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:32:27

I love that. So where can we find you? Glenda,

Glenda Chen: 00:32:30

yes, okay, so you can find me from LinkedIn at,

Glenda Chen: 00:32:35

yeah, which you will see the link in the link, the link in

Glenda Chen: 00:32:40

link, yes, yeah. And also, iG, Facebook, and also, right now I

Glenda Chen: 00:32:47

am bringing my client through a 21 days journey in the data

Glenda Chen: 00:32:52

collective, right? And, of course, this is absolutely a

Glenda Chen: 00:32:58

community that I'm building is free of charge, yeah, so I'm

Glenda Chen: 00:33:04

bringing them in a journey every day. We will do something in

Glenda Chen: 00:33:09

just like 10 minutes, right? Because I do believe in all

Glenda Chen: 00:33:14

these 10 minutes on a daily basis, it would compound and it

Glenda Chen: 00:33:20

will change your life in the results that you want in your

Glenda Chen: 00:33:23

life.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:33:24

And where is that collective?

Glenda Chen: 00:33:28

So I is in the link below, yes, okay. Collective,

Glenda Chen: 00:33:32

yes. So it is a platform, a big online platform, okay? And is is

Glenda Chen: 00:33:39

fun, because we gamified this. So once you do this, once you

Glenda Chen: 00:33:45

fulfill the daily activities, we will reward you with coins, yeah

Jennifer Takagi: 00:33:51

and yes, yes, that's right. Oh my gosh. I

Jennifer Takagi: 00:33:55

think it's so interesting that we've had some very similar

Jennifer Takagi: 00:33:58

paths in our lives. So that's great. Glenda, this has been

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:02

awesome. So we need to stop the hustle.

Glenda Chen: 00:34:05

Yes, stop the hustle. Don't hustle, but align,

Glenda Chen: 00:34:09

alignment. Easy,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:11

align, elevate and prosper. I love that. Those

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:14

are three really amazing words. It has been great to get to know

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:18

you, and I love all the information. So do you have any

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:21

closing words for the audience? Yeah,

Glenda Chen: 00:34:25

so personal development is not about fixing

Glenda Chen: 00:34:27

yourself, because nobody need to be fixed. We are all on a

Glenda Chen: 00:34:31

journey together, and we are not better than anyone of us, but

Glenda Chen: 00:34:37

it's just that we help each other to align elevate and

Glenda Chen: 00:34:42

prosper together.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:45

Oh my gosh, I love that align elevate and

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:48

prosper that's so awesome. Thank you for being here today.

Glenda Chen: 00:34:52

Thank you, Jennifer, for your time. Thank

Glenda Chen: 00:34:54

you.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:55

I'm Jennifer Takagi with destin for success,

Jennifer Takagi: 00:34:58

and I look forward to collecting with you at. Collecting with

Jennifer Takagi: 00:35:00

you. Listen to me. I'm now collecting too. I look forward

Jennifer Takagi: 00:35:03

to connecting with you soon. Thank you. Yeah. Where's the

Jennifer Takagi: 00:35:09

button?